@sonship saidThings like integrity, dignity, empathy, compassion - morality, more broadly - help us with our interactions with others so that they are effective and successful. They are only needed while we are alive, obviously.
If you have no future but to die and rot, of what real issue is your supposed "dignity" ?
@sonship saidYou can call me "toilet heart" if you want. I do not know what 'standard outside of you' you are referencing when you say it; that's a matter for you. I just want to know what "toilet heart" means and what do you think saying it has to do with "dignity", whether it be yours or mine?
If I OUGHT not call you an insulting name, By what standard outside of each of us and above us is this OUGHT a part of ?
You were asked where the phrase came from and you said “I don’t know”.
Liar.
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You stole it from Witness Lee, I even know the webpage you stole it from.
Liar
I never CONCEALED that he used it.
YOU ALL made an issue of me using it.
I never denied it.
I HELPED you see WHERE he used it when you would not DROP the artificial ISSUE of it.
I said I didn't know if someone used it before him. And I don't.
I encouraged posters who care to do some surfing to find out if they can discover that.
And people say things other people said.
You’re dishonest and you’re a plagiariser of his ideas.
Liar
Remember liar - P.O. Box in your complaining letter to the Living Stream Ministry. That way you can kind of conceal your cowardly self. You didn't do it yet did you ?
@sonship saidWhat exactly is a "toilet heart"?
@divegeesterYou were asked where the phrase came from and you said “I don’t know”.
Liar.
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I never CONCEALED that he used it. ...[text shortened]... tream Ministry. That way you can kind of conceal your cowardly self. You didn't do it yet did you ?
Folks a couple years ago when I gave my personal testimony of coming to Christ one night, I explicitly said that at that moment "I felt like a flushed toilet"
The moment I asked Jesus to save me I felt like a flushed toilet when my unconfessed sins were all exposed and made to appear as what they were.
I was a typical sinner whose heart the Bible says is incurable and desperately wicked.
Annoying types like self righteous people I have let know that their hearts are unclean.
And especially so when they persistently trash the most righteous man who ever walked the earth - Jesus.
So FMF, who is so nonchalant that the Gospel means nothing to him one way or another, got the brunt end of my name calling. And he loves every minute of it as it focuses everyone's attention on him.
Hold on. He may be about to tell us all what he "lacks" belief in again.
@sonship saidOK, so you once used the word "toilet" to describe something about yourself "one night" years ago for some reason or other. Fair enough. But how exactly am I a "toilet heart" for not believing the same things as you?
So FMF, for whom is so nonchalant that the Gospel means nothing to him one way or another, got the brunt end of my name calling. And he loves every minute of it as it focus everyone's attention on him.
@sonship saidI confront you over the incoherence or misanthropy of your ideology and I confront you about the far-fetched supernatural claims you make about yourself. I don't think you can find any examples of me "trashing" Jesus in so far as he is a historical figure. I don't even "trash" Christians for believing in "Jesus", so I think you're making this up.
And especially so when they persistently trash the most righteous man who ever walked the earth - Jesus.
Did anyone notice if FMF answered this question?
If there are no supernatural causes then aside from material causes what other kinds of causes are there?
Does he mean -
There are material causes - natural causes.
There are no supernatural causes.
What other causes then are there besides natural and material causes ?
And a second question to him:
Is nature responsible for the laws of nature ?
In other words was it within nature that the laws of nature emerged into existence ?