Originally posted by @suzianne
ALL of man's suffering is caused by man, not God.

What about Job?

Originally posted by @chaney3
What about Job?

If undeserved suffering can be laid upon Job, with God's approval, then it can happen to any of us.
And....God was not innocent in His little 'bet' with Satan.

Originally posted by @chaney3
What about Job?

Job's circumstance was a special instance.

And a lot of suffering IS 'undeserved'. But it is the direct result of man's actions, and not God's. I'm not saying that most people are responsible for their own suffering, but that also is sometimes the case.

Originally posted by @chaney3
If undeserved suffering can be laid upon Job, with God's approval, then it can happen to any of us.
And....God was not innocent in His little 'bet' with Satan.

I'm not especially keen on the story of Job, as it depicts a God who gives righteousness short shrift.

I think perhaps these insights into God's nature shows also that our time on this earth is overvalued by us. God seems to make clear over and over that this limited time of suffering on earth is nothing compared to what comes next... a life much closer to God, a life more akin to what was meant for us before the fall. The life of Jesus the Christ shows there is more for us after this life than in it.

Originally posted by @suzianne
I'm not especially keen on the story of Job, as it depicts a God who gives righteousness short shrift.

I think perhaps these insights into God's nature shows also that our time on this earth is overvalued by us. God seems to make clear over and over that this limited time of suffering on earth is nothing compared to what comes next... a life much close ...[text shortened]... e the fall. The life of Jesus the Christ shows there is more for us after this life than in it.

You ignored my question on the previous page I notice. Why is that?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Natural disasters?

Bump for Suzianne...

Originally posted by @divegeester
Interesting, an insult, a compliment and a misconception all in one.

was never ment to be an insault. i was pleasently surprized

Originally posted by @pudgenik
was never ment to be an insault. i was pleasently surprized

It’s ok we all know whodey is a bit of a sloppy-brow

Originally posted by @divegeester
It’s ok we all know whodey is a bit of a sloppy-brow

you are a good challege here. back away from the sarcasm. and be solid with your point of view.

just my thoughts friend

Originally posted by @chaney3
If undeserved suffering can be laid upon Job, with God's approval, then it can happen to any of us.
And....God was not innocent in His little 'bet' with Satan.

that little "bet" acually happens more than the "religious" want to know

Originally posted by @pudgenik
you are a good challege here. back away from the sarcasm. and be solid with your point of view.

just my thoughts friend

You don’t think I’m “solid with my point of view”??

Originally posted by @divegeester
You don’t think I’m “solid with my point of view”??

when you are not being sarcastic it is food for thought

Originally posted by @pudgenik
you are a good challege here. back away from the sarcasm. and be solid with your point of view.

just my thoughts friend

I love your attitude. Without the right attitude, we get nowhere. Peace.