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20 Oct '14 22:47The post that was quoted here has been removedUnless you're fluent in Latin your first problem would be learning the language. English was pretty different in 1014. Clearly I'm assuming that you'd end up in medieval Europe, elsewhere I think the situation would be the same - only without the handy link to the past Latin would give to European time travellers.
20 Oct '14 22:561 editOriginally posted by DeepThoughtModern English didn't get started till around 1500 or so when the 4 tribes in England had to find a way to communicate with each other. So you better learn Latin or Greek or maybe early German or Occitan. Occitan was the language of the first European literature.
Unless you're fluent in Latin your first problem would be learning the language. English was pretty different in 1014. Clearly I'm assuming that you'd end up in medieval Europe, elsewhere I think the situation would be the same - only without the handy link to the past Latin would give to European time travellers.
21 Oct '14 02:19Originally posted by sonhouseI'm curious as to who you think the 4 tribes of the English in 1500 were. That was long gone. There were 40 odd kingdoms which merged over time to form the Heptarchy and later on England itself by 950. Anglo-Saxon is most closely related to Old Frisian, the Romans gave a parcel of land to legionaries in conquered territory and the legions were full of Germans. The Romans and huge numbers of Romano-British (they saw themselves as Roman and wanted to be in the Empire) left in 450. Germanic mercenaries provided security and then after a rebellion over pay took control. There was no invasion in any numbers. Cerdic landed with two boats, not the entire population of Saxony. After the English converted to Christianity writers tried to fit English history into the story of the fall of Israel and Judah. Bede claimed that Anglen was completely depopulated and they'd all moved here, which wasn't true it was just they were Pagan and the church wanted no contact to avoid people reverting. The loss of trade is probably what caused the Vikings to attack. By 950 English was Old Frisian with large numbers of loan words from Old Norse (e.g. Sky, egg, leg) and all the Grammar removed (we don't decline articles any more). The Normans invaded in 1066 and tribal identity was well and truly over. You were either English or Norman and the Normans spoke French, of a sort. 1,500 is far too late for this. This is the start of the Tudor era and the language they were using was pretty much modern English.
Modern English didn't get started till around 1500 or so when the 4 tribes in England had to find a way to communicate with each other. So you better learn Latin or Greek or maybe early German or Occitan. Occitan was the language of the first European literature.
Here is a nice link to the history of English. The roots go back further than I thought.
http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/historytimeline_2.htm
23 Oct '14 16:24Originally posted by RJHindsOnce again showing the results of not being able to think for yourself, instead, just deferring to whatever bible passage you have already memorized, the panacea for all the world's ills. As if.For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion...
Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
(Joel 1:6,15 KJV)
23 Oct '14 16:261 editOriginally posted by DeepThoughtWell, tribes was mis-spoken, I guess I should have said four languages were spoken around London in the 1300's and such leading to the effort to create a common language.
I'm curious as to who you think the 4 tribes of the English in 1500 were. That was long gone. There were 40 odd kingdoms which merged over time to form the Heptarchy and later on England itself by 950. Anglo-Saxon is most closely related to Old Frisian, the Romans gave a parcel of land to legionaries in conquered territory and the legions were full of ...[text shortened]... s is the start of the Tudor era and the language they were using was pretty much modern English.
24 Oct '14 04:58Originally posted by sonhouseIt could be that while we are occupied with the problem of ISIS and terrorism that Iran will finish making their nuclear bombs. There has been news reports that China and Russia have become very friendly with Iran. Turkey, a majority Muslim nation, is not making any effort to confront ISIS even as it is fighting right on the Turkish border and Turkey is a member of NATO.
Once again showing the results of not being able to think for yourself, instead, just deferring to whatever bible passage you have already memorized, the panacea for all the world's ills. As if.
24 Oct '14 14:37Originally posted by RJHindsEr, you haven't been keeping up. You need to get out more. Turkey has taken in almost 2 MILLION refugees from the fighting and has recently allowed US fighters to use air fields inside Turkey and are closing in on a deal to put Turk soldiers on the ground to fight ISIS.
It could be that while we are occupied with the problem of ISIS and terrorism that Iran will finish making their nuclear bombs. There has been news reports that China and Russia have become very friendly with Iran. Turkey, a majority Muslim nation, is not making any effort to confront ISIS even as it is fighting right on the Turkish border and Turkey is a member of NATO.
Endtime Biblical prophecies could possibly be on the verge of fulfillment.
24 Oct '14 16:17Originally posted by sonhouseWhy should he? All he needs to know was written 2000ish years ago.
Er, you haven't been keeping up. You need to get out more. Turkey has taken in almost 2 MILLION refugees from the fighting and has recently allowed US fighters to use air fields inside Turkey and are closing in on a deal to put Turk soldiers on the ground to fight ISIS.
24 Oct '14 21:04Originally posted by sonhouseWe shall see about Turkey. But what do you say of Russia, China, Iran relations?
Er, you haven't been keeping up. You need to get out more. Turkey has taken in almost 2 MILLION refugees from the fighting and has recently allowed US fighters to use air fields inside Turkey and are closing in on a deal to put Turk soldiers on the ground to fight ISIS.
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