Not believing in the trinity is not denying the deity or lordship of Jesus Christ. It is denying the teaching of three distinct persons in the godhead.
But not having the Son is not having the Father either.
"Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who confesses the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:23)
The word trinity is not in the Bible.
The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit - as God is.
I'd love to talk with chaney about the triune nature of God. That is if he is not just your proxy asking the same question over and over, which has been addressed over the years.
@sonship saidOh gosh. Are you now going to claim you have no idea of the nature or track record of the poster called chaney3 after four years and thousands and thousands of posts on the Spirituality Forum? You think he might be divegeester's "proxy"? Gosh.
I'd love to talk with chaney about the triune nature of God. That is if he is not just your proxy asking the same question over and over, which has been addressed over the years.
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The problem is you will not answer “yes” or “no”. And we both know why don’t we
Sometimes Jesus did not answer a question except with words He thought appropriate to use.
For example:
And someone said to Him, Lord are there only a few who are being saved?
And He said to them, Struggle to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to enter; yet will not be able, Once the Master of the house has risen and shut the doors, ... etc. etc." (See Luke 13:23,24)
See? He did not give a "Yes" or "No" then.
Had you been the questioner, you no doubt would have re-asked, and re-asked, and re-asked to corner Him into answering as you demanded -
"Once again Lord, are there only a few who are being saved? YES or NO? "
@sonship saidI'm undecided about the trinity.
@divegeesterNot believing in the trinity is not denying the deity or lordship of Jesus Christ. It is denying the teaching of three distinct persons in the godhead.
But not having the Son is not having the Father either.
[quote] "Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who confesses the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:23 ...[text shortened]... not just your proxy asking the same question over and over, which has been addressed over the years.
And godhead too, which seems the same to me.
@sonship saidSure, just the obvious reason that my mind cannot comprehend God being 3 people.
@chaney3I'm undecided about the trinity.
And godhead too, which seems the same to me.
Would you elaborate a little about what you mean?
Funny thing. I watched "The Shack", and a friend asked me if God could have been the deer. I quickly said yes, then realized I don't give God enough credit for being able to be Jesus too.
It's a process for me.
@rookie54 said...something about expectations ...
i was sixteen or seventeen in the late sixties when i sat on the grass in the breezeway of my texas high school, asked the Lamb to wash away my sins, restore my soul, and the Holy Ghost came to reside in my heart...
i didn't read that in the bible...
it just happened...
lotsa crap has happened since then...
@rookie54 saidpreparation
i was told of the procedure by folks in bible study...
i even gave it several (cannot remember exact numbers) attempts of "asking Jesus to forgive my sins", but nothing ever seemed like i was any cleaner than the day before...
but that one day, i remember it clearly, there wasn't any thunder or trumpets blaring or heavenly choir singing, but there was a definite change in ...[text shortened]... it may be there, i don't know...
as for a lamb cult, that's a GREAT idea...
wanna be a minion???
@chaney3 saidBy the way, "The Shack" is an interesting movie, for those who may desire to see a trinity based movie.
Sure, just the obvious reason that my mind cannot comprehend God being 3 people.
Funny thing. I watched "The Shack", and a friend asked me if God could have been the deer. I quickly said yes, then realized I don't give God enough credit for being able to be Jesus too.
It's a process for me.
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-Removed-Who and what Jesus was is for you to figure out.
It is no different than when Jesus asked his disciples who he was. Some said a prophet, among other things, but only Peter said he was the Son of God.
Jesus then turned to him and made him promise not to tell anyone saying that the Father had revealed this to him. There was no other way for him to have known.
And so it goes, the Father reveals this to whom he desires.
@whodey saidThe Son of God does NOT mean God, nor any form of God.
Who and what Jesus was is for you to figure out.
It is no different than when Jesus asked his disciples who he was. Some said a prophet, among other things, but only Peter said he was the Son of God.
Jesus then turned to him and made him promise not to tell anyone saying that the Father had revealed this to him. There was no other way for him to have known.
And so it goes, the Father reveals this to whom he desires.
Jesus could have corrected Peter, but did not.
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@chaney3 saidJesus had told Peter to not tell anyone that he was THE Son of God.
The Son of God does NOT mean God, nor any form of God.
Jesus could have corrected Peter, but did not.
Now if there is nothing special about that title, then why would he tell him to keep it to himself?
Also, they all viewed him as a man of God, so if there is nothing special about that title, then all of them would have been right.
Jesus did not say that though. Only Peter got it right and had he allowed them to proclaim it, the religious rulers would have killed him sooner than he was ready for blasphemy.