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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoThe last Republican died in Ford's Theater.* --rwingett
The last Christian died on the cross.--Nietzsche
*Yeah, I know, he actually died in the house across the street.
Originally posted by rwingettThe last proponent of the Hegelian System died of cholera in Berlin,in 1831. The last communist is buried in Highgate cemetery,London.
The last Republican died in Ford's Theater.* --rwingett
*Yeah, I know, he actually died in the house across the street.
Originally posted by PenguinJudge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7, verses 1 to 6:
1 [b]Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wi ng about judgement as well. Verse one is a direct instruction about judgement.
--- Penguin.[/b]
Originally posted by tomtom232Well there's a secret decoder ring if ever I saw one. You're basically saying that the Bible says not to judge unless your judgement is wrong. That's going to be a hard call to make isn't it? And I don't think it's what Matthew is saying at all.
[b]Judge not, that ye be not judged.
The term judge is used in more than one sense, but Christ's meaning is plain. (1) He does not prohibit the civil judgment of the courts upon evil doers, for this is approved throughout the whole Bible. (2) He does not prohibit the judgment of the church, through its officers, upon those who walk disorderly, for ...[text shortened]... ble judgments, a fault-finding spirit, a disposition to condemn without examination of charges.[/b]
Originally posted by tomtom232Especially if we are quilty ourselves of the same thing.
[b]Judge not, that ye be not judged.
The term judge is used in more than one sense, but Christ's meaning is plain. (1) He does not prohibit the civil judgment of the courts upon evil doers, for this is approved throughout the whole Bible. (2) He does not prohibit the judgment of the church, through its officers, upon those who walk disorderly, for ...[text shortened]... ble judgments, a fault-finding spirit, a disposition to condemn without examination of charges.[/b]
Originally posted by Penguin1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Well there's a secret decoder ring if ever I saw one. You're basically saying that the Bible says not to judge unless your judgement is wrong. That's going to be a hard call to make isn't it? And I don't think it's what Matthew is saying at all.
--- Penguin
Originally posted by PenguinI state this nowhere, strawman.
Well there's a secret decoder ring if ever I saw one. You're basically saying that the Bible says not to judge unless your judgement is wrong. That's going to be a hard call to make isn't it? And I don't think it's what Matthew is saying at all.
--- Penguin
Originally posted by tomtom232On 28 you should edit and correct the word "bastonished" to "astonished".
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what ajudgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the bmote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the cbeam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out ...[text shortened]... ht them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Have you read it in context now?
Originally posted by rwingettA true Christian doesn't know what a true Christian is?
I think he is not a "true" Christian, not because he passes judgment, but because he tries to restrict the definition of what a true Christian is. In that sense, a "true" Christian would be one who does not have a fixed definition of what a true Christian is. It would be one for whom the phrase "true Christian" has no meaning.