the end

death is not the decay of the body.

ego is the "great death".

ego is not self.

the end of self is either the end into nothing or into the" greater self".

@mister-moggy

"The undiscovered country."

@mister-moggy said
ego is the "great death".

Please elaborate...

@mister-moggy said
death is not the decay of the body.
ego is the "great death".
ego is not self.
the end of self is either the end into nothing or into the" greater self".

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Hey, moggs. I'm just happy to see that you are still at large. 🙂

@bigdoggproblem said
Please elaborate...

I think what he is saying is that ego tends to make one think they are something they are not.

what i have said is that ego is the material of spiritual death.

selflessness is the birth into the greater being.

there may not be a greater being.

we may, perhaps be but a thinking part of the periodic table not yet known.

or perhaps, there is a universal strength in life with a design beyond our small sense.

or perhaps there is an old testament god of judgement who changed his mind to create a new testament god of love.

all is possible since their can be no horizon beyond "an expanding universe ( the "red shift"😉.

if "all" came out of "nothing" then where did "nothing" come from ?

the only evolutionary creation that darwin ever made was when he put wheels on his chair and made the modern office chair.

and then he may have seen a poor carpenter in cornwall who had done this and then just copied it and history recalls darwin putting wheels on a chair when it was just a cornwall carpenter who did not have the royal society audience that darwin had.

@mister-moggy said
what i have said is that ego is the material of spiritual death.

selflessness is the birth into the greater being.

there may not be a greater being.

we may, perhaps be but a thinking part of the periodic table not yet known.

or perhaps, there is a universal strength in life with a design beyond our small sense.

or perhaps there is an old testament god of j ...[text shortened]... r when it was just a cornwall carpenter who did not have the royal society audience that darwin had.

Isn't there a balance, though? If I seek only my own enrichment, that is selfish, but if I exist only to placate others, that is being a doormat. Neither seems like a healthy way to live.

@bigdoggproblem said
Isn't there a balance, though? If I seek only my own enrichment, that is selfish, but if I exist only to placate others, that is being a doormat. Neither seems like a healthy way to live.

Those who seek their balance in life, centered between the ying and yang, between the sturm und drang, are to be followed and admired, no matter their religion.

@caesar-salad said
Hey, moggs. I'm just happy to see that you are still at large. 🙂

"At large" in the meaning of "on the loose", as in "not apprehended yet"?

@mister-moggy said
what i have said is that ego is the material of spiritual death.

selflessness is the birth into the greater being.

there may not be a greater being.

we may, perhaps be but a thinking part of the periodic table not yet known.

or perhaps, there is a universal strength in life with a design beyond our small sense.

or perhaps there is an old testament god of j ...[text shortened]... r when it was just a cornwall carpenter who did not have the royal society audience that darwin had.

"if "all" came out of "nothing" then where did "nothing" come from?"

"All" did not come from "out of nothing".

There cannot be "nothing" unless, and until, there is something.

"All" came into existence from "out of" the creative genius of the mind of God.

There is no other rational explanation for the reason why the universe exists.

@mister-moggy said
if "all" came out of "nothing" then where did "nothing" come from ?

I believe that by deriving m from E = mc2 and other mathematics, which I don’t understand, it can be shown that mass can theoretically be destroyed completely to produce energy. And as equations work both ways it can therefore be shown that mass can be created from energy.

Although this is still not from “nothing”.

@secondson said

There is no other rational explanation for the reason why the universe exists.

The universe has always existed, in one form or another. Dismissing that as irrational is self-defeating, as it is the very argument you tender yourself for the existence of God.

If God is eternal and beyond time, why not the universe itself?

Appears my profound question was an end to this thread.


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@ghost-of-a-duke said
The universe has always existed, in one form or another. Dismissing that as irrational is self-defeating, as it is the very argument you tender yourself for the existence of God.

If God is eternal and beyond time, why not the universe itself?

The only reason that God being eternal would mean the universe is too would be they are one and the same. An eternal God and a created universe does not mean that the universe is eternal.