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    BUILDING A EUROPE BASED ON SPIRITUAL AND CULTURAL VALUES



    VATICAN CITY, SEP 29, 2006 (VIS) - Today a letter written by Cardinal Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone was made public. This message was sent to the participants of the V European Symposium of university professors, which is being held in Rome from September 28 to October 1, on the theme: "Where is culture going? Culture, people and institutions".



    He writes that in continuation of what was proposed in the speech at the University of Regensburg last September 12, the Pope indicates the "objective of a full rationality, faithful to the integral human experience, as a duty of Christian university teachers and students, an objective to be achieved through constructive dialogue with all those sharing the same passion for truth and with mutual respect for the diversities".



    Cardinal Bertone states that "Based on this cultural foundation, one can work realistically towards the construction of a renewed European identity, apt to offer the world, faced with epochal challenges, a contribution of inestimable spiritual and cultural inheritance, able to forge a humanism that is rational and open to the revelation of Jesus Christ, tolerant but steadfast in its ethical principles".

    SS/EUROPE:CULTURE/BERTONE VIS 060929 (200)
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    29 Sep '06 17:19
    The Christians in my country, represented by figures from dj2becker to George W. Bush, tell me that the EU and the Catholic Church are the new incarnation of the Roman Empire from which the Anti-Christ will rise as prophecied in Daniel. What do you think?

    http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/romanempire.php
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    29 Sep '06 17:27
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    The Christians in my country, represented by figures from dj2becker to George W. Bush, tell me that the EU and the Catholic Church are the new incarnation of the Roman Empire from which the Anti-Christ will rise as prophecied in Daniel. What do you think?

    http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/romanempire.php
    How is that response on topic?
  4. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    29 Sep '06 17:28
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    How is that response on topic?
    Who can even tell what the topic is? Ivanhoe just posted some article.
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    29 Sep '06 17:30
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Who can even tell what the topic is? Ivanhoe just posted some article.
    Reading the article tells you what the topic is.
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    29 Sep '06 17:31
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Reading the article tells you what the topic is.
    Who's going to read the article?
  7. Subscriberno1marauder
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    29 Sep '06 17:32
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    How is that response on topic?
    Did you read the title of the thread?
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    29 Sep '06 17:341 edit
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Who's going to read the article?
    Anyone who intends to behave rationally in this thread.
  9. Subscriberno1marauder
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    29 Sep '06 17:35
    THE ARTICLE: Based on this cultural foundation, one can work realistically towards the construction of a renewed European identity,

    It is unrealistic to work towards any identity for Europe other than as the conduit for the coming reborn Roman Empire led by the Anti-Christ. So the article's thesis is refuted by Biblical prophesy properly understood.
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    29 Sep '06 17:35
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Did you read the title of the thread?
    Did you?

    Did you read the excerpts posted by ivanhoe?
  11. Subscriberno1marauder
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    29 Sep '06 17:35
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Anyone who intends to behave rationally in this thread.
    Good luck with that.
  12. Subscriberno1marauder
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    29 Sep '06 17:36
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Did you?

    Did you read the excerpts posted by ivanhoe?
    Yes and ATY's response was directly on-topic.
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    29 Sep '06 17:42
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    THE ARTICLE: Based on this cultural foundation, one can work realistically towards the construction of a renewed European identity,

    It is unrealistic to work towards any identity for Europe other than as the conduit for the coming reborn Roman Empire led by the Anti-Christ. So the article's thesis is refuted by Biblical prophesy properly understood.
    Would it be unrealistic to work towards an identity for Europe under the banner of Jesus Christ, for example?

    Would the fact that Christian Europe was unified thus until a few centuries back mean that the "Fourth Empire" of Daniel has already come to pass? If so, who was the Anti-Christ? And how is it Biblical to suppose that the Anti-Christ would unify Europe under the banner of Christ?
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    29 Sep '06 17:43
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Yes and ATY's response was directly on-topic.
    Okay.
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    29 Sep '06 17:481 edit
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Would it be unrealistic to work towards an identity for Europe under the banner of Jesus Christ, for example?

    Would the fact that Christian Europe was unified thus until a few centuries back mean that the "Fourth Empire" of Daniel has already come to pass? If so, who was the Anti-Christ? And how is it Biblical to suppose that the Anti-Christ would unify Europe under the banner of Christ?
    Yes, because as ATY's quoted article mentions, it is the anti-Christ who will rule united Europe. So working against Biblical prophesies, the Word of God Himself, is blasphemy.

    The rapture occurs during the reign of the Anti-Christ and since RBHILL is still around, the Anti-Christ hasn't shown up yet.

    EDIT: The Antichrist will speak blasphemous words against God as he rules over the world, and there will be intense persecution of the tribulation saints, those who accept Christ after the rapture of His church.
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