The fraud

@kellyjay said
Nothing is wrong with the story, only your grasp of it.

Nothing is wrong with your story, only your grasp of it.

@caissad4 said
Nothing is wrong with your story, only your grasp of it.

How would you know, you've yet brought anything to my attention to discuss outside of vague claims, which as far as I know only reside in your head?

@kellyjay said
How would you know, you've yet brought anything to my attention to discuss outside of vague claims, which as far as I know only reside in your head?

If you actually knew anything except "I believe, I believe", you would read the actual history of your silly religious beliefs. You are just another version of the Lalalalalalala , fingers in the ears Christian.

@caissad4 said
If you actually knew anything except "I believe, I believe", you would read the actual history of your silly religious beliefs. You are just another version of the Lalalalalalala , fingers in the ears Christian.

Get specific, so far vague claims are all you have brought to the discussion.

@kellyjay said
Get specific, so far vague claims are all you have brought to the discussion.

Okay, your whole belief system is a contradiction. Jesus sacrificing himself to himself to save mankind from himself.

@caissad4 said
Okay, your whole belief system is a contradiction. Jesus sacrificing himself to himself to save mankind from himself.

The facts are not in contradiction, how do you see that? God is just, holy, righteous, good, pure and unchanging. There is nothing about God in these that can justify a wicked sinner, or ignore any sin we have done at any level known to us or unknown. God knowing that when He creates this universe that when we are given the ability to make up our own minds were going to have us fall away because the ability to say yes comes with it the power to say no. So from before the foundation of knowing the issues of a race like us He made a way to justify the wicked, to save sinners from the wrath that their actions demanded, and that was for God to pay by the Word of God becoming one of us and taking the full wrath of God on Him for all of our sins. So after that everything that was held against us was taken care of in Christ, who is also our judge on day of judgment.


Ephesians 1:3-5 English Standard Version (ESV)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

@kellyjay said
The facts are not in contradiction, how do you see that? God is just, holy, righteous, good, pure and unchanging. There is nothing about God in these that can justify a wicked sinner, or ignore any sin we have done at any level known to us or unknown. God knowing that when He creates this universe that when we are given the ability to make up our own minds were going to have ...[text shortened]... tined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Of course they are contradictions.

@caissad4 said
Of course they are contradictions.

Point them out

@kellyjay said
Point them out

I already did, go look.

@caissad4 said
Okay, your whole belief system is a contradiction. Jesus sacrificing himself to himself to save mankind from himself.

This is extremely profound. Bravo. 😀

Jesus had to die to save mankind from Jesus.

Yet.....there is a "catch", you still must believe it happened, or Jesus will make you suffer, for eternity.

@caissad4 said
Okay, your whole belief system is a contradiction. Jesus sacrificing himself to himself to save mankind from himself.

This post deserves its own thread.

@caissad4 said
I already did, go look.

Show how what you said reveals a contradiction.
Shouldn't be to difficult if there really is one.

@kellyjay said
Show how what you said reveals a contradiction.
Shouldn't be to difficult if there really is one.

I guess you cannot read. Sorry for that handicap, there are classes you can attend to help.

@caissad4 said
I guess you cannot read. Sorry for that handicap, there are classes you can attend to help.

Put up or shut up, simply insulting and making claims you don't, or cannot back up are simply unmoving.

@kellyjay said
Put up or shut up, simply insulting and making claims you don't, or cannot back up are simply unmoving.

I could say the same of you. You , instead of going back in a few posts, childishly insist that the information you demand must be posted again and again.
Grow up.