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It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.

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@chaney3 said
It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.
If you are referring to the Christian faith, the canonical understanding is that Mary was the mother of Jesus. To have a human woman impregnated by a god was a fairly common template in Roman mythology.

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@caesar-salad said
If you are referring to the Christian faith, the canonical understanding is that Mary was the mother of Jesus. To have a human woman impregnated by a god was a fairly common template in Roman mythology.
Jesus supposedly existed forever, as God's son, with no mother, before Mary.

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@chaney3 said
Jesus supposedly existed forever, as God's son, with no mother, before Mary.
Ah. Good point! The original motherless child.

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@caesar-salad said
Ah. Good point! The original motherless child.
Single parent families ... always trouble ....

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@chaney3 said
It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.
Short but I think its a nice answer on why things were setup this way. I'll get you another for sins.



Short also necessary part of the answer



To give us the ability to choose He has setup us for right and wrong.
If we choose wrong, God's justice and goodness require we pay for our crimes.
If we by making choices find we are unable to rise above this, we are doomed.
God seeing the need in the universe created did the only thing that could be done to save us from our sin before a Holy God. Jesus paid in full for all of our crimes before a Holy God, and is the only way we can come to God.

If only real love matters, only real choices to give our lives to God matters, and only a real God within us can alter us to the ways of God, then what really matters is God. He is the source of all, to attempt to do this on our own is never going to answer all the requirements within reality.

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@chaney3 said
It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.
There is something strangely wrong with the Christian story.

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@chaney3 said
It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.
I lost count now.

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@rajk999 said
I lost count now.
Be a minion if you want.
The story fails under scrutiny.

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@chaney3 said
Be a minion if you want.
The story fails under scrutiny.
Small minds enjoy discussing people.
Get out of the gutter.

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@rajk999 said
Small minds enjoy discussing people.
Get out of the gutter.
The creator of the universe is small minded and jealous?

Doubt it.

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@chaney3 said
The creator of the universe is small minded and jealous?

Doubt it.
Again, there is something very very wrong with the story.

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@rajk999 said
Small minds enjoy discussing people.
Get out of the gutter.
As an aside and based on the adage “we are what we post” I think that the people aspects of these forums, the casual dishonesties, the pretensions, the intellectual posing and the jostling to be ‘seen’ to be with the in-group, are the more interesting aspects of this community.

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@chaney3 said
It has ocurred to me that the creator of the universe would not be so petty as to kill his son (who has no mother) to pay for sins, that the creator knew would happen.
The traditional Christian view is that the creator is the son, and that was God on Earth.

The three parts of God do exist, but it is also God who is dying.

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@chaney3 said
Again, there is something very very wrong with the story.
Nothing is wrong with the story, only your grasp of it.

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