21 Aug '12 10:16>1 edit
Originally posted by twhiteheadI don't clalim that those who call themselves Christian have discpline, nor am I saying that those who are not do not have discipline. I think I made myself clear on this earlier. My only claim is that serving equals freedom/power. In my own walk with Christ, I've experienced this. I have also tried to be disciplined on my own power, and failed, but then tried to submit to Christ and succeeded.
Absolute nonsense. I have far more self discipline than most people I know, and certainly more than the average Christian. Or are you going to redefine 'self discipline' and also claim that all those undisciplined Christians are not 'True Christians®'?
Of course, my perspective is different from your own, but I think the principle is easy enough to see as having truth in it.