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Originally posted by twhiteheadThat's because they are all going to Hell anyway so it doesn't matter. 😏
I find it interesting that this sort of warning (from one person to another of the same views) is common amongst theists but not atheists. I never hear atheists telling each other 'be on your guard against this argument or that argument, or this type of Christian'. We do listen to each others ideas, but most of the time we figure out counter arguments for our selves, and we are not afraid of any argument a theist might present.
P.S. I am ready for you to twist my words. That is what atheists like to do.
Originally posted by RJHindsWhen you die you won't get a shock that heaven is /isnt real.
That's because they are all going to Hell anyway so it doesn't matter. 😏
P.S. I am ready for you to twist my words. That is what atheists like to do.
You will be dead.
Your mind will be dead
Your body will rot and decay.
The End
Based on the true story of every human in history.
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Originally posted by nook7What really annoys me is that there are people starving in the world much more deserving of the food that RJHinds eats. He does humanity a disservice by even existing.
When you die you won't get a shock that heaven is /isnt real.
You will be dead.
Your mind will be dead
Your body will rot and decay.
The End
Based on the true story of every human in history.
Originally posted by knightmeisterah, cs lewis. another strawman antagonist.
CS LEWIS
"It is no good asking for a simple religion. After all, real things are
not simple. They look simple, but they are not. The table I am sitting at
looks simple: but ask a scientist to tell you what it is really made of-all
about the atoms and how the light waves rebound from them and hit my eye and
what they do to the optic nerve a ...[text shortened]... ot His statement to us of certain quite unalterable facts about His own
nature."
knightmeister. This is not the first time you have brought up this argument. Why don't you simply summarize it and state it in your own words instead of quoting CS Lewis, with the intent of blaming him when your argument fails?
Let me help you out. This is your argument:
"My beliefs are too complicated for you to understand, so you cannot create an argument against them because any such argument will be a strawman."
Or put another way:
"Any argument against Christianity is an argument against a Christianity I don't believe in. (Or: All arguments against Christianity are strawmen.)"
Of course the counter argument is:
Our arguments against Christianity, are too complicated for you to understand, so your claim that they are strawmen is a strawman.
I need something cleared up. Christianity requires an unquestioning belief ,faith. I just can't see how anybody does'nt have a smidgen of doubt about anything they believe in . Will anyone swear on their eternal soul and those of their children that they are without doubt in their belief in a christian god.
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Originally posted by kaminskyUnfortunately, though I cannot for the life in me fathom how; the majority of Christians of the ilk we get on these boards are absolutely and completely convinced that their invisible sky fairy equipped with infinite ranged spying goggles exists. They also believe that magic is possible, that good will always triumph over evil, and that we are on the verge of testing this in some great cataclysmic battle. They unquestionably believe in talking snakes, talking bushes and that regardless of any natural impediment, walking on water and rising from the dead was within the realms of possibility for mortals 2000 years ago. They also reckon that 2 of every damned species of animal that ever lived (including dinosaurs) fitted onto a little ark and were kept alive in these cramped conditions for 40 days by a 900 year old bloke and his small entourage of family members.
I need something cleared up. Christianity requires an unquestioning belief ,faith. I just can't see how anybody does'nt have a smidgen of doubt about anything they believe in . Will anyone swear on their eternal soul and those of their children that they are without doubt in their belief in a christian god.
It would be comical if it were not so f***ing tragic!
Actually i take the last bit back - it *is* comical; indeed it's fricking hilarious!!! 😵
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Originally posted by Soothfastnot so, Jesus cried at Lazarus death. Death honours no one and the effects of sin are
If Christians truly believed, then they would celebrate at funerals, not mourn at them.
hardly a cause for celebration. Christians grieve but they are not overcome with grief
as those without hope.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSee, I'd call that a flaw in the tale. The engineers of Christianity should've put more thought into the development of the characters. If death for a Christian means being with God, and everyone is crying about it, I'd be forced to conclude that God must be hell to be around.
not so, Jesus cried at Lazarus death.
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Originally posted by Soothfastwho says death its about being with God? you really should try to learn not to make
See, I'd call that a flaw in the tale. The engineers of Christianity should've put more thought into the development of the characters. If death for a Christian means being with God, and everyone is crying about it, I'd be forced to conclude that God must be hell to be around.
assumptions and then base arguments upon those assumptions, its castles made of
sand. death is the effect of sin, that is not something that a Christian would or should
feel happy about.
id call it a human element and go as far to say it lends legitimacy to the account
because of that, why indeed would the gospel writer make that up, any conceivable
argument other than, because i say so.