05 Mar '12 04:31>
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAh, I almost forgot about this artful dodge. The Christian who comes forward and says, in effect, that what 99% of Christians say all the time just ain't so, or ain't meant to be the way it sounds, or it's all just a metaphor, or whatever. You may be "different" or atypical in some way, but I can tell you that the way the story goes is: the saved Christian goes to be with God. You can say that is not accurate, but I can tell you -- and you surely are aware -- that the great preponderance of self-professed Christians in the Western world cleave to that idea. It's said in the churches, and its said at funerals. Same old song.
who says death its about being with God? you really should try to learn not to make
assumptions and then base arguments upon those assumptions, its castles made of
sand. death is the effect of sin, that is not something that a Christian would or should
feel happy about.
id call it a human element and go as far to say it lends legitimacy to ...[text shortened]... d would the gospel writer make that up, any conceivable
argument other than, because i say so.
Yet, the Christians who claim to believe in the faithful departed going to heaven still mourn terribly, as if somehow their belief were failing them. As if, for a while at least, the immunity to certain realities that the religion meme affords its carrier is stymied, and somehow found wanting. I don't care what you in particular believe in -- you're the artful dodger who happens to be present during my soliloquy, rallying some half-assed defense of "the Faith". My observation pertains to the multitudes of others who call themselves Christian and would agree with the statement that to die is to go to heaven and be with God.