Originally posted by robbie carrobieAh, I almost forgot about this artful dodge. The Christian who comes forward and says, in effect, that what 99% of Christians say all the time just ain't so, or ain't meant to be the way it sounds, or it's all just a metaphor, or whatever. You may be "different" or atypical in some way, but I can tell you that the way the story goes is: the saved Christian goes to be with God. You can say that is not accurate, but I can tell you -- and you surely are aware -- that the great preponderance of self-professed Christians in the Western world cleave to that idea. It's said in the churches, and its said at funerals. Same old song.
who says death its about being with God? you really should try to learn not to make
assumptions and then base arguments upon those assumptions, its castles made of
sand. death is the effect of sin, that is not something that a Christian would or should
feel happy about.
id call it a human element and go as far to say it lends legitimacy to ...[text shortened]... d would the gospel writer make that up, any conceivable
argument other than, because i say so.
Yet, the Christians who claim to believe in the faithful departed going to heaven still mourn terribly, as if somehow their belief were failing them. As if, for a while at least, the immunity to certain realities that the religion meme affords its carrier is stymied, and somehow found wanting. I don't care what you in particular believe in -- you're the artful dodger who happens to be present during my soliloquy, rallying some half-assed defense of "the Faith". My observation pertains to the multitudes of others who call themselves Christian and would agree with the statement that to die is to go to heaven and be with God.
Originally posted by kaminskyIt is like this, I have 1% doubt and you can have the other 99%. 😏
I need something cleared up. Christianity requires an unquestioning belief ,faith. I just can't see how anybody does'nt have a smidgen of doubt about anything they believe in . Will anyone swear on their eternal soul and those of their children that they are without doubt in their belief in a christian god.
Originally posted by AgergThey were miracles.
Unfortunately, though I cannot for the life in me fathom how; the majority of Christians of the ilk we get on these boards are absolutely and completely convinced that their invisible sky fairy equipped with infinite ranged spying goggles exists. They also believe that magic is possible, that good will always triumph over evil, and that we are on the verge of ...[text shortened]... c!
Actually i take the last bit back - it *is* comical; indeed it's fricking hilarious!!! 😵
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieyou neglected to infix that end part of that comment with “deluded” for you should have said:
not so, Jesus cried at Lazarus death. Death honours no one and the effects of sin are
hardly a cause for celebration. Christians grieve but they are not overcome with grief
as those without hope.
“...Christians grieve but they are not overcome with grief
as those without deluded hope”