@fmf saidIt doesn't matter if you had a good life, a great life, or a horrible one; the happiness of man in this life isn't a meter for where you end up at judgment. The scales are not tipped for the kind of good people to the more horrible ones; it is purely sinless, or not. Since all have fallen short, it is either the salvation bought by Jesus Christ laying down His life for us; the sinless One became sin so we could be redeemed, or we die in our sins. Jesus alone is the answer, not who suffered or lived a life of ease with joy.
Were Jews who did not "accept" Jesus - as they were poisoned to death in the Nazi's concentration camps - subjected to torture in burning flames for eternity after they were murdered?
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@pb1022 saidYeah, and well I'm not sure I should say this, but it seems Dive can no longer think or speak in paragraphs, so there might have been some degradation of the gray matter.
Wow. It’s like you’re going to rip his clothes off at any second. You just won’t take No for an answer.
Plus I'm not really into guys my age (62) and although younger guys might seem a little beautiful and foxy, if any of them tried to court me, of course I'd be suspicious, because I don't want to be anyone's sugar-daddy.
But Dive doesn't get that, and I don't know how to get him to get that.
@kellyjay saidSo this is a "Yes" in reply to the OP?
It doesn't matter if you had a good life, a great life, or a horrible one; the happiness of man in this life isn't a meter for where you end up at judgment. The scales are not tipped for the kind of good people to the more horrible ones; it is purely sinless, or not. Since all have fallen short, it is either the salvation bought by Jesus Christ laying down His life for us; t ...[text shortened]... or we die in our sins. Jesus alone is the answer, not who suffered or lived a life of ease with joy.
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@pb1022 saidThe question is whether there are posters here who believe that people exterminated in the Holocaust because they were Jews faced eternal torture [after being gassed by the Nazis] because they were Jews [who did not believe in Jesus]. Beyond posing that question, I am not "suggesting" anything.
Are you suggesting they deserved to be in Heaven?
@fmf saidDoes this line of inquiry have anything to do with your Jewish ancestry?
The question is whether there are posters here who believe that people exterminated in the Holocaust because they were Jews faced eternal torture [after being gassed by the Nazis] because they were Jews [and so did not believe in Jesus]. Beyond posing that question, I am not "suggesting" anything.
@pb1022 said"Acceptable" to whom? You?
Or would you consider annihilationism to be an acceptable end result?
That we die and then we are gone ~ and that's the end ~ is my perspective. So the question of whether that is "acceptable" is for people who believe that immortality is some sort of option or alternative.
@fmf saidFine, but why even drag the Jews into this if you are not Jewish?
"Acceptable" to whom? You?
That we die and then we are gone ~ and that's the end ~ is my perspective. So the question of whether that is "acceptable" is for people who believe that immortality is some sort of option or alternative.
@fmf saidWell, it’s either Heaven or hell.
The question is whether there are posters here who believe that people exterminated in the Holocaust because they were Jews faced eternal torture [after being gassed by the Nazis] because they were Jews [who did not believe in Jesus]. Beyond posing that question, I am not "suggesting" anything.
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@fmf saidNo, acceptable to you.
"Acceptable" to whom? You?
That we die and then we are gone ~ and that's the end ~ is my perspective. So the question of whether that is "acceptable" is for people who believe that immortality is some sort of option or alternative.
You seem to be objecting (or at least strongly implying it’s unfair) for Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust to then go to hell.
So I’m asking if you would find annihilationism less objectionable.