Originally posted by RJHindsHey you finally got one right!!!!
You quote John 18:36
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
Where was His Kingdom then. Could it be in heaven?
Originally posted by galveston75
Jesus said not to kill but yet you think it's ok to disobey him because some man tells you to? This man must be some type of God to you to disobey Jesus.
Matthew 10:28 (Today’s New International Version, ©2005)
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in h ...[text shortened]... ll even someone of your own faith, then you are a part of the world that Satan is the ruler of.
Originally posted by galveston75I am sure Jesus meant for us not to kill without a cause. That would
Jesus said not to kill but yet you think it's ok to disobey him because some man tells you to? This man must be some type of God to you to disobey Jesus.
Matthew 10:28 (Today’s New International Version, ©2005)
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in h ...[text shortened]... ll even someone of your own faith, then you are a part of the world that Satan is the ruler of.
be not to murder someone. We have laws in our government against
murder anyway. Therefore, we only need to follow the laws in our
government to obey Jesus.
Originally posted by RJHindsHmmmm... Is this true for the Christians of all countries, over history?
I am sure Jesus meant for us not to kill without a cause. That would
be not to murder someone. We have laws in our government against
murder anyway. Therefore, we only need to follow the laws in our
government to obey Jesus.
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Originally posted by RJHindsWithout cause? Wouldn't his apostles have just cause when they wanted to protect Jesus himself from being taken? Did not Jesus tell them to side their swords and not fight?
I am sure Jesus meant for us not to kill without a cause. That would
be not to murder someone. We have laws in our government against
murder anyway. Therefore, we only need to follow the laws in our
government to obey Jesus.
You have no idea what Jesus meant and you have no right to say you do....
Originally posted by galveston75The 6th Commandment of God:
Without cause? Wouldn't his apostles have just cause when they wanted to protect Jesus himself from being taken? Did not Jesus tell them to side their swords and not fight?
You have no idea what Jesus meant and you have no right to say you do....
"You shall not murder."
(Exodus 20:13 New American Standard Bible)
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Originally posted by JS357sooo dropping two huge atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and
Invasion is only one way to initiate military action against a country. I have never been in danger of my country being invaded, but I have been in danger of nuclear attack in my lifetime. "Attack" being the general term, countries are attacked when the attacking country's leaders think it is in their interests to attack. Making it be against the interests of ...[text shortened]... in the military.
By the way, what does this have to do with the Holy Spirit? Just curious.
Nagasaki killing civilians was morally justifiable from your stance, After all it was a
demonstration of your willingness and ability to defeat your enemy? what about
Napalm bombs, were they also morally justifiable? It has nothing to do with the Holy
Spirit, unless of course you wish that I prove such contemptible and fiendish acts to be
opposed to its operation.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDropping those bombs ended the war much quicker and actually prevented more
sooo dropping two huge atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki killing civilians was morally justifiable from your stance, After all it was a
demonstration of your willingness and ability to defeat your enemy? what about
Napalm bombs, were they also morally justifiable? It has nothing to do with the Holy
Spirit, unless ...[text shortened]... urse you wish that I prove such contemptible and fiendish acts to be
opposed to its operation.
deaths, on both sides of the war, by forcing the Japanese leaders to surrender.
The Japanese people are much better off for it. And it is a shame the USA sacrificed so many lives liberating the Iraqi people and spent so much of our citizens tax money to rebuild Iraq and we are not getting any appreciation
or repayment for it. President Bush was forced, by the liberal media and the
democrates, to refuse asking for any oil, so that he and the USA would not
be accused of invading Iraq for the oil which we needed. And in Vietnam
we fought to stop the rapid spread of communism which threated the freedom
of the entire world. Bad things happen in wars; but freedom is worth fighting for
even if it is not our own. We look forward to that day when all men know
the truth and there will be no need for wars to protect our freedoms.
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat a truly incredible post, but for all the wrong reasons.
Dropping those bombs ended the war much quicker and actually prevented more
deaths, on both sides of the war, by forcing the Japanese leaders to surrender.
The Japanese people are much better off for it. And it is a shame the USA sacrificed so many lives liberating the Iraqi people and spent so much of our citizens tax money to rebuild Iraq and we are no ...[text shortened]... hat day when all men know
the truth and there will be no need for wars to protect our freedoms.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI would guess you are a young guy by your comment. But it seems
I dont profess believe in an omnipresent God, infact, why would he send out his Angels
if he was omnipresent, it doesn't make any sense, therefore my dear Caissad4, as a
southern gentlemen, i must ask you politely, to adopt another strategy
.
He has left us a communication, the most widely distributed, widely translated book in
the entire history of humanity, and here we are playing the flute and you refusing to
dance!
like you would have learned something from your history teachers
about how important it it was for the USA to enter World War II to
help save Europe from Hitler and the Nazis. If the Japanese had
not attacked the USA when they did we may not have entered that
war. I wonder what would of happened to England, France, and the
other democratic countries in Europe then.
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Originally posted by RJHindsI am well aware of WWII history thanks. I'm a lot younger than you also, but what that has to do with anything i'm not sure.
I would guess you are a young guy by your comment. But it seems
like you would have learned something from your history teachers
about how important it it was for the USA to enter World War II to
help save Europe from Hitler and the Nazis. If the Japanese had
not attacked the USA when they did we may not have entered that
war. I wonder what would of happened to England, France, and the
other democratic countries in Europe then.
I found this statement rather curious regarding the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki -
The Japanese people are much better off for it.
Are you implying that the Japanese should say thank you?
Could you point out where Jesus said it was acceptable to indiscriminately kill innocent civilains?