@suzianne saidAgreed.
But he no doubt decided to use the physical laws (that he created) in the physical universe (that he created) to effect physical change which also has the added effect of causing one of his creations (man) to have the free will (which he created) to believe that it was all done without a God.
No cheat sheets here.
Psalm 19 and Romans 1.
There is God, and then there is everything else in existence that God created.
It was "very good" until chapter 3. Then I think entropy was introduced into the physical laws after the fall.
@josephw saidOr why not 13 billion?
Considering God exists eternally, outside of time where we exist, I'm quite certain he is unperturbed by our dogmatism.
But knowing God has unlimited power I hold steadfast to his word where I'm safe from speculating about things beyond my comprehension. With or without telescopes.
13 billion years is time out of mind. Why not 13 trillion? Why not 7 days?
I have no doubt God can do it any which way he pleases.
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@josephw saidEntropy is inherent in any physical system.
Agreed.
Psalm 19 and Romans 1.
There is God, and then there is everything else in existence that God created.
It was "very good" until chapter 3. Then I think entropy was introduced into the physical laws after the fall.
Wind up the clock, the clock runs down.
-Removed-I said we know what gravity does; we do not know what it is or how it got here; if
you are going to repeat my position, at least do me a favor and correctly address
what I said. I have never said I don't believe in an expanding universe or the
science of an expanding universe, again is another misstatement or categorization.
The one thing the expanding universe does tell us is that if you reverse the
direction of it, there would be a point it would have to stop, but even that does
not tell us where everything was or what it all looked like when it all started, it
only tells us it was started.
@kellyjay saidI think science is well able to explain why there is gravity and how it works. I think you are being disingenuous.
I said we know what gravity does; we do not know what it is or how it got here.
However, the philosophical question of "how it got there" is something nobody knows the answer to [regardless of Muslims and Jews and Christians might believe about the authority of Genesis].
I think gravity may be the work of a creator entity of some kind. But this theory is not something I "know". And it does not make ancient Hebrew mythology any more credible.
@fmf saidReally, explain why gravity is here, I said all we know is how it works so there we
I think science is well able to explain why there is gravity and how it works. I think you are being disingenuous.
However, the philosophical question of "how it got there" is something nobody knows the answer to [regardless of Muslims and Jews and Christians might believe about the authority of Genesis].
I think gravity may be the work of a creator entity of some kind. B ...[text shortened]... s theory is not something I "know". And it does not make ancient Hebrew mythology any more credible.
agree.
@kellyjay said[1] If you are asking why is there gravitational force [what causes it], then take it to the Science Forum; [2] if you are asking 'why is it here and, while we are at it, why is the universe here', then the answer is we don't know [we can but speculate] and/or perhaps there is some kind of creator entity.
Really, explain why gravity is here, I said all we know is how it works so there we
agree.
@fmf saidI've been clear and if you have an issue with actually putting up where you cannot
[1] If you are asking why is there gravitational force [what causes it], then take it to the Science Forum; [2] if you are asking 'why is it here and, while we are at it, why is the universe here', then the answer is we don't know [we can but speculate] and/or perhaps there is some kind of creator entity.
that is on you not me.