Originally posted by knightmeister
I do hope you are not succombing to the temptation to grind an axe at my expense here. The question was raised in good faith in the expectation that some Atheists might jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of it.
I wouldn't describe it as grinding an axe. I am:
1. trying to find out your views on the matter.
2. pointing out that the issue is far greater than the one verse you gave.
3. and yes, taking advantage of the fact that someone actually wants to talk about it (though maybe not with us atheists?). Usually when I bring up a sensitive topic like that all the theists go quiet.
The fact is that Christians do actually ask these questions. We don't always come up with neat answers and there are always loose ends left untied. If you want something watertight then don't look to Christianity. But does a faith having loose ends mean it's bunk? Personally I quite like the fact it's a bit messy. If it was all sorted I think I would get quite nervous about it.
Then you wouldn't like Islaam - from what I hear the Qu'ran is much better organized than the Bible and the fact that there is far less division in the Islamic religion is evidence for that.
One is of course left to wonder why you like having a messy faith and why you thing God wants such confusion to reign. In fact you yourself said you didn't think Jesus would be happy about it, so why does he disagree with God?
The fact is that Christians do actually ask these questions.
But you pussyfoot around the core issue and never really tackle the questions head on. I see the same behavior when it comes to discussing the soul.
Do you really ever honestly ask yourself "Why do I trust the validity of the text in the Bible?"? Do you ever discuss it openly with anyone other than people you know will affirm your beliefs?