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The Kingdom of God-men

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This abbreviated summary of Rajk999 leaves out Jesus teaching that God would LIVE IN His followers to form the kingdom of God. It is misrepresentative of the whole teaching of the four Gospels

I will prove so in both the synoptics and in the Gospel of John.
The summary paragraph:


It is about the following:
- Belief and Baptism
- Repentance from sin
- Good works and righteous living

This is what Jesus wants and what people will be judged on. Nothing else is the Gospel of Christ.

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Matthew 16:28 - 17:13 is the record of the TRANSFIGURATION of Jesus. Concealed within the man was the glory of God. This glory was hidden for most of His earthly ministry. But in one dramatic instance He revealed to three of His disciples that concealed within the flesh of His humanity was the God of glory.

On the mountain of His transfiguration He temporarily "unzipped" and allowed the splendor of God to radiate out for a manifestation to them that He was a God-man.

And this manifestation He declared was the essence of "the Son of Man coming in His KINGDOM" - a kingdom in which His followers were to play a CO-part once He died and rose and was imparted into them.

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The facts:

For the Son of Man is to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will repay each man according to his doings.

Truly I say to you, There are some of those standing here who shall by no means taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.

And after six days Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John his brother, and brought them up to a high mountain privately. And He was transfigured before them, and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as the light.

And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, conversing with Him. (Matt. 16:27 - 17:3)


Jesus selected three of His closest disciples, and privately He revealed to them a sample of what His coming in His kingdom would mean. That God in man would radiantly shine out in glorious splendor to match the moral splendor of their living out and unto God.

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Some readers read this account and assume Jesus was saying some of the standing by would be alive still at the time of His second coming.

However, they read the words "see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom" but in their minds they understand "the Son of Man's second coming."

Peter, James, and John were given a PREVIEW of the manifestation of God shining out visibly in splendor and glory in a Man. That Man is the Jesus Christ. However His kingdom will include CO-PARTAKERS of that union and interweaving of the glory of God's divine life with the human life.

This is absolutely proved by Jesus predicting that the sons of the Father would also shine like the sun in the coming kingdom of His and their Father.

"The Son of Man will send His angels, and they will collect out of His kingdom all the stumbling blocks and those who practice lawlessness. And will cast them into the furnace of fire. In that place there will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

Then the righteous will shine forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." (Matt. 13:41-43)


The transfigured saints will co-shine as God-men in their Father's kingdom. The concealed glory will also burst forth from within them in transfiguration.

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Lots of thumbs down but no effective rebuttals.
This is because they cannot refute what I explained.

Try it.
Try it but but stay on this subject. The Kingdom of God-men

I welcome the challenge for the truth's sake.

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The Kingdom of God-men is the topic.
So where is the problem with my posts in this thread so far you thumb downers?

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@sonship said
The Kingdom of God-men is the topic.
So where is the problem with my posts in this thread so far you thumb downers?
Let's start with the nonbiblical nonsense:

"The transfigured saints will co-shine as God-men in their Father's kingdom. The concealed glory will also burst forth from within them in transfiguration."

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Let's start with the nonbiblical nonsense:

"The transfigured saints will co-shine as God-men in their Father's kingdom. The concealed glory will also burst forth from within them in transfiguration."


I am not fond of having Bible studies with atheists because eventually you will only fall back on the position that it is all nonsense anyway. Right?

So just state that fall back position up front. Save time.

For others here who do not consider the Bible ALL nonsense anyway, I will reply to the objection for their sakes in another post.

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For the sake of others who do not take a round about route of dismissing the whole Bible as nonsense ANYWAY. Let's start with the Bible's revelation.


"The transfigured saints will co-shine as God-men in their Father's kingdom. The concealed glory will also burst forth from within them in transfiguration."

The first task is to show that what happened to Jesus will happen to the saints of Jesus.

As the Gospels show that Jesus was transfigured, so ALSO the believers are to be CO-transfigured with Him.
What? You didn't know that ??

"For our commonwealth exists in the heavens, from which also we eagerly await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who will TRANSFIGURE the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of His glory, according to His operation by which He is able even to subject all things to Himself." (Philippians 3:20,21)

Christ was transfigured.
Christ will transfigure the bodies of His followers.

This gives the Christian the total ground to say what Christ experienced on the mount of transfiguration we who are saved by Him may also expect to partake of the same.

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Yes, but how do we know this transfiguration has anything to do with God living in us, the believers?

Of course since Jesus was Son of God He said that He was the light of the world.
Okay, at this point we can understand that as spiritual or moral light rather than
physical.

But isn't it significant that He was the light of the world, He ALSO said the kingdom people of His were the light of the world?

"Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall by no means walk in darkness." (John 8:12)

"You are the light of the world. It is impossible for a city situated upon a mountain to be hidden." (Matt. 5:14)

Jesus said HE was the light of the world.
Jesus said His kingdom people were also the light of the world.

But what is this light - this moral light which will result in a visible light in transfiguration? It is the life of God.

"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." (John 1:4)

The light is the divine and eternal life of God embodied in Christ the Son of Man, the Son of God. And He dispenses this life into His redeemed people that they also may be the light of the world. And that with Him they also may be eventually transfigured.

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@sonship

I don't know why you bother quoting biblical passages you clearly haven't understand and onto which you transplant the mumbo-jumbo of a charlatan.

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It is intriguing how the number of thumbs down around here have no effect on what the Bible reveals.

The transfiguration of Christ will also occur to the redeemed people OF Christ.
This is called "the manifestation of the sons [plural] of God"

The whole creation is eagerly awaiting this manifestation because it will also signal the release of the creation (which was made FOR God's kingdom) into freedom from corruption.

"For the anxious watching of the creation eagerly awaits the revelation of the sons of God. For the creation was made subject to vanity, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, In hope that the creation itself will also be freed from the slavery of corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God." (Rom. 8:19-21)

This is called in Matthew and in Philippians transfiguration.

In Romans 8:23 it is called "the redemption of our body" which the believers upon growing in the divine life should eagerly also await.

" . . . we who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan in ourselves, eagerly awaiting sonship, the redemption of our body." (See Rom. 8:23)

For Christ it was transfiguration as well as for the Christians.
Yet for the Christians it is "the redemption of our body."

It is a component of His full redemption of our whole being which reaches also our body. How extensive and all-encompassing is Christ's full salvation.

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"The transfigured saints will co-shine as God-men in their Father's kingdom. The concealed glory will also burst forth from within them in transfiguration."


Because this transfiguration includes the believers, the apostle John says that we shall be like Him. The normal course of the Christian life is that being victorious in Jesus we will be rewarded to be "LIKE HIM" .

"Behold what manner of love the Father has given us, that we should be called the children of God; and we are. Because of this the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. " ( 1 John 3:1)

The world that did not know Christ also will not recognize those indwelt with by Christ. But they are children of God.

"Beloved, now are we children of God, and it has not yet been manifested what we will be. We know that if He is manifested, we shall be like Him because we will see Him even as He is." (v.2)

If we receive Him and learn to live through Him, by His indwelling divine life, we will be like Him in transfiguration as reward at His appearing.

Both resurrection and rapture and transfiguration awaits the overcoming believers who live through Christ. This is wonderful.

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This thread is a prime example of sonship in full-on cult propaganda copy-paste info dump.

I thought I got lots of red thumbs, but jeez!

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Of course the CO-glorification if the saved was something the Son of God prayed for. It was part of His mighty petition in John 17.

"Father, concerning that which You have given Me, I desire that they also may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me. fpor You loved Me before the foundation of the world." (John 17:24)

That is surely a petition of the Son to the Father which will be thoroughly fulfilled.

He was God and became a man - a God-man.
And in His full salvation those saved by Him are saved to become God-men.

He returns to His eternal position this time wearing the humanity which He clothed Himself with and uplifted in His incarnation, living, death and resurrection.

Jesus, enthroned forever, petitions His Father that the saved be with Him where He is to behold His glory. He is leading "many sons"{/b] into the expression of the divine glory of God.

[b]"For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and through whom are all things, in leading many sons into glory, to make the Author of their salvation perfect through sufferings. " (Hebrews 2:10)


Jesus, as the real Captain Joshua (Jesus means Joshua in Greek) is the Captain of salvation (the Author of salvation) LEADING many sons of God into the divine expression of their Father's life.

One hundred turned down thumbs cannot change the truth of the Bible. Can it?

In fact the same passage says that Jesus the God-man is not ashamed to call His saints "brothers"{/b] for He and they are all of one.

[b]"For both He who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of One, for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brothers."


What a wonderful eternal purpose to live for !

I sing a song about this in Hebrews 2:9-11
Jesus, But We See Jesus

https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore/but-we-see-jesus-heb-29-11

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