12 Sep '06 23:26>
Originally posted by lucifershammerI personally have a very big problem with the whole 'map-territory' discussion. The problem is somewhat difficult to describe, but I can put it into simple terms with your ethics analogy. If you say that relativism and objectivism together cover the whole space of possibility, you are making a big assumption: you are assuming moral cognitivism. You are essentially delineating differing characterizations of moral truth, which assumes that moral claims are truth-apt to begin with. My point is that the moral noncognitivist will have a problem with your discussion. In much the same way, I have a big problem with this discussion. A main premise of cartography relies on a metaphysics of facts that can be imparted about the 'territory'. This discussion would seem to assume that there are such facts, but I think that assumption is a bad one. I don't think I'll have much to add to the discussion.
[b]Basic 'Cartographic' Positions
Given the description of map and territory above, there are two basic positions one can assume about them:
1. Relativism: Each person has a fundamentally different territory from every other person's; each person has a different destination and, hence, each person will need his own map to traverse the ...[text shortened]... tarting point is.
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* My term - essentially the Catholic (Gk. 'Universal'😉 position.[/b]