19 Sep '10 00:47>
Greetings to everybody. This is my first post on the forums. The vigorous discussions are much appreciated.
I am forming some thoughts about the nature or marks of being "indoctrinated", as prompted by some of the previous posts.
Indoctrination in its formal meaning is a form of teaching of doctrines or principles, usually in the context of a religion. But it has a negative connotation now, with elements of fear-inducing, guilt-inducing, and basic propaganda processes, that avoid and often discourage open and free reasoning and pursuing of other aspects not directly related to the indoctrinated religion, pseudo-science etc. This is the meaning taken in this post.
The difficulty is that if we are"indoctrinated" it is very hard for us to recognise it. The quest for freedom of belief seriously involves respect for other people's beliefs. But it also means the freedom of a person to think and reason those beliefs without coercion. Recognising the marks in themselves may lead someone to a freer life. This would probably be very helpful for them.
To keep it simple, may I suggest some marks or indicators when indoctrination is around. You might like to question them or add to them.
1. Fear-inducing beliefs. "If you look outside these beliefs, you will go to hell!" or something like that. Or get shot!
2. Guilt-inducing beliefs . "If you question or search elsewhere (psychology, philosophy, other religions) for truth, you are betraying GOD, and you are a terrible sinner!" Or some such.
3. Source Restriction. "There is only one and only one authority and it is in this book! This is the word of GOD, and if you question or want to reason about it, you are questioning the very literal "WORD OF GOD"!" (Book may be any one of a number of sacred or spiritual sources, which in themselves may have much of value and guidance, but in indoctrinating systems they are directly connected to "the tongue" of the Supreme Source of the Universe. No questioning allowed.)
4. Excessive leader/priest/mullah/caste/ authority. They are the ONLY ONES that say what is right or wrong. Any questioning of them, very not good. Nasty consequences... see under "fear/guilt etc."
(As for me, I am a sort of tao/zen/dzogchen mutation. I used to be indoctrinated. Freedom is a wonderful thing.)
Cheers, friends.
I am forming some thoughts about the nature or marks of being "indoctrinated", as prompted by some of the previous posts.
Indoctrination in its formal meaning is a form of teaching of doctrines or principles, usually in the context of a religion. But it has a negative connotation now, with elements of fear-inducing, guilt-inducing, and basic propaganda processes, that avoid and often discourage open and free reasoning and pursuing of other aspects not directly related to the indoctrinated religion, pseudo-science etc. This is the meaning taken in this post.
The difficulty is that if we are"indoctrinated" it is very hard for us to recognise it. The quest for freedom of belief seriously involves respect for other people's beliefs. But it also means the freedom of a person to think and reason those beliefs without coercion. Recognising the marks in themselves may lead someone to a freer life. This would probably be very helpful for them.
To keep it simple, may I suggest some marks or indicators when indoctrination is around. You might like to question them or add to them.
1. Fear-inducing beliefs. "If you look outside these beliefs, you will go to hell!" or something like that. Or get shot!
2. Guilt-inducing beliefs . "If you question or search elsewhere (psychology, philosophy, other religions) for truth, you are betraying GOD, and you are a terrible sinner!" Or some such.
3. Source Restriction. "There is only one and only one authority and it is in this book! This is the word of GOD, and if you question or want to reason about it, you are questioning the very literal "WORD OF GOD"!" (Book may be any one of a number of sacred or spiritual sources, which in themselves may have much of value and guidance, but in indoctrinating systems they are directly connected to "the tongue" of the Supreme Source of the Universe. No questioning allowed.)
4. Excessive leader/priest/mullah/caste/ authority. They are the ONLY ONES that say what is right or wrong. Any questioning of them, very not good. Nasty consequences... see under "fear/guilt etc."
(As for me, I am a sort of tao/zen/dzogchen mutation. I used to be indoctrinated. Freedom is a wonderful thing.)
Cheers, friends.