Originally posted by whodey More Messiah prophecies.
Enoch 48 "At that hour, the Son of Man was given a name, in the presence of the Lord of Spirits, the Before-Time, even before the creation of the sun and moon, before the creation of the stars, he was given a name in the presence of the Lord of Spirits. HE will become the light of the Gentiles and he will become the hope of those ...[text shortened]... was written in a pre-Christ time, I wonder how the Jews view this book?
Anyone have an idea?
I believe Jews consider these legends and myths about Enoch that were compiled by some unknown author.
Originally posted by whodey This is simply startling. Here we have a book written well before the time of Christ essentially picturing him as anything but a mortal man, even though he is in the image of a man. This means that the deity of Christ was not a construct of Paul, it existed well before Paul.
How old is the oldest existing copy of the Book Of Enoch?
Originally posted by whodey For those of the Christian faith, there is nothing more puzzling that the character Enoch. In Genesis chapter 5 we are first briefly introduced to Enoch, and just as fast we are told that God "took him".
Genesis 5:24 And Jared lived an 162 years, and he begat Enoch. And Jared lived after he begat Enoch 800 years, and begat sons and daughters. And all the ...[text shortened]... t it. I am starting to read it once again and will share insights I find interesting.
Enjoy.
There are several problems.
If all we know of Enoch is from Genesis 5, then how is it there is a book with so much of what Enoch had to say?
How did this book appear just a few centuries before Christ with no other mention of Enoch in the Old Testament scriptures?
How do we know that "the book of Enoch" wasn't written centuries after Christ? Which would explain the quote from Jude.
1 Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].
Originally posted by josephw There are several problems.
If all we know of Enoch is from Genesis 5, then how is it there is a book with so much of what Enoch had to say?
How did this book appear just a few centuries before Christ with no other mention of Enoch in the Old Testament scriptures?
How do we know that "the book of Enoch" wasn't written centuries after Christ? Which ...[text shortened]... ss genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].
The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch) is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah, although modern scholars estimate the older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the end of the first century BC.
It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest or significance, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as non-canonical or non-inspired. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian group.
It is wholly extant only in the Ge'ez language, with Aramaic fragments from the Dead Sea Scrolls and a few Greek and Latin fragments. For this and other reasons, the traditional Ethiopian belief is that the original language of the work was Ge'ez, whereas non-Ethiopian scholars tend to assert that it was first written in either Aramaic or Hebrew; E. Isaac suggests that the Book of Enoch, like the Book of Daniel, was composed partially in Aramaic and partially in Hebrew. No Hebrew version is known to have survived. The book itself claims to be written by Enoch himself before the Biblical Flood.
The authors of the New Testament were familiar with the content of the story and influenced by it: a short section of 1 Enoch (1 En 1:9 or 1 En 2:1 depending on the translation) is quoted in the New Testament (Letter of Jude 1:14–15), and is attributed there to "Enoch the Seventh from Adam" (1 En 60:8). The text was also utilised by the community that originally collected the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The mystery of Enoch
05 Sep '14 02:32
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