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    Can any man tell me what the number one is...?


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    01 Sep '07 15:35
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    Can any man tell me what the number one is...?


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    According to Three Dog Night, it's the lonliest number.
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    01 Sep '07 15:54
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    According to Three Dog Night, it's the lonliest number.
    Well, has he got a reason why he says that?
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    01 Sep '07 17:541 edit
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    Can any man tell me what the number one is...?


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    Unity of all.
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    01 Sep '07 18:17
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Unity of all.
    That's something you can use to represent the number one.

    Truly, the number one is a concept...

    Correct?

    And where does it exist?

    The concept of the number one exists in every man's mind which can be represented through the use of certain things on this world.

    Even this (1) is a symbol representing the idea of the number one.

    The unity of everything into one thing is another representation of the concept of one.

    Correct?
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    01 Sep '07 18:531 edit
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    That's something you can use to represent the number one.

    Truly, the number one is a concept...

    Correct?

    And where does it exist?

    The concept of the number one exists in every man's mind which can be represented through the use of certain things on this world.

    Even this (1) is a symbol representing the idea of the number one.

    The unity of everything into one thing is another representation of the concept of one.

    Correct?
    Yes, everything thought of by man is contained in conceptual models.

    With this being the Spirituality Forum and all, I was hoping that you were going for something along the lines of the idea of there being an ultimate reality that is beyond the conceptualization of man. An ultimate reality that is the unity of all.
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    01 Sep '07 21:05
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Yes, everything thought of by man is contained in conceptual models.

    With this being the Spirituality Forum and all, I was hoping that you were going for something along the lines of the idea of there being an ultimate reality that is beyond the conceptualization of man. An ultimate reality that is the unity of all.
    Not exactly. It's a proof of the God of Theism. Still Spirituality, correct?

    Alright, so if the number one is a concept, if anyone changed the concept of the number one, the number one would cease to be the number one correct?

    And this number one cannot have its origination traced. How long has the number one existed? It always has, ever since time began, correct? Not even the earliest human has explained the origination of the number one. Therefore, it must have existed before man ever did.

    Therefore the conclusions here are that the number one is eternal and unchanging, unchanging from the first argument and eternal from the second.
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    01 Sep '07 22:221 edit
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    Not exactly. It's a proof of the God of Theism. Still Spirituality, correct?

    Alright, so if the number one is a concept, if anyone changed the concept of the number one, the number one would cease to be the number one correct?

    And this number one cannot have its origination traced. How long has the number one existed? It always has, ever since ti ...[text shortened]... one is eternal and unchanging, unchanging from the first argument and eternal from the second.
    Sorry, but don't quit your day job 🙂
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    01 Sep '07 22:481 edit
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    Can any man tell me what the number one is...?


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    One way of telling someone you have to go to the bathroom...it's the truth!
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    A repackaging of Anselm and Plantinga's Ontological Argument? Unconvincing.
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    How the hell'd I miss?...

    If you'd tell me what's wrong about it, then I'd listen. Tell me. Teach me.

    Or is it not wrong and it's just a trite, overused argument?

    I'm a senior in high school. You can't blame me for being inexperienced in philosophy, but I do read Apologetics books. I've read Geisler, at least. Oh, and Descartes.

    Plus, I'm trying to remove the Bible from the discussion so noone can question the argument...
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    02 Sep '07 02:061 edit
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    If you'd tell me what's wrong about it, then I'd listen. Tell me. Teach me.
    You're asking the wrong fella. BBarr (PBUH) or even Doc Scribbles (trolling for chickens) might have been able to help. In the meantime, Google is your friend.

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ontological-arguments/#ObjOntArg

    edit: Maybe LemonJello... I see him hanging about.
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    02 Sep '07 02:39
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    How the hell'd I miss?...

    If you'd tell me what's wrong about it, then I'd listen. Tell me. Teach me.

    Or is it not wrong and it's just a trite, overused argument?

    I'm a senior in high school. You can't blame me for being inexperienced in philosophy, but I do read Apologetics books. I've read Geisler, at least. Oh, and Descartes.

    Plus, I'm trying to remove the Bible from the discussion so noone can question the argument...
    Wow. I really thought you were trying to be funny.

    What is God?
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    02 Sep '07 03:292 edits
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    Wow. I really thought you were trying to be funny.

    What is God?
    Wait...

    Are you defaulting to a position of no God?
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    02 Sep '07 03:48
    Originally posted by EinsteinMind
    Wait...

    Are you defaulting to a position of no God?
    Actually I was curious as to your conception of what God is. There seem to be more than a few conceptual models of this floating around 🙂
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