@caesar-salad saidNo
If the Spirit is God (in the trinitarian view) and God is omnipresent, isn't everyone and everything equally Spirit-filled?
@rajk999 saidI think that as the Holy Spirit can be aggrieved that it is more likely that it took a few steps back when there was deceit involved.
In Acts 2, 3, and 4, these early Christians on the day of Pentecost, were all filled with the Holy Spirit.
In Acts 5 these two were found FILLED WITH SATAN
It is either:
- Gods removed His Spirit from them
- Satans Spirit is stronger than Gods
Or some other option. Which is it?
So "some other option"
I'm surprised that you put option 2 on the page?
@rajk999 saidI didn't say that. Take another look.
The famous, true Christians do not sin, line. Its lame.
Murder is not "just a sin".
It is one of the relative few where under The Law you would pay for the deed at the expense of your own life.
@rajk999 saidShow the scripture that says that they were filled with both the Spirit of God and Satan. There is a difference between the Holy and unholy, that you seem to know little about.
All you have is talk and opinions. I gave an example. Ananias and Sapphira were born again Christians with the Holy Spirit. Are you saying God failed to fill them with His Spirit?
@medullah saidHis views on the gospel of Jesus Christ mixes those who give their lives to Christ and those that don’t.
I think that as the Holy Spirit can be aggrieved that it is more likely that it took a few steps back when there was deceit involved.
So "some other option"
I'm surprised that you put option 2 on the page?
@KellyJay
The problem that we have as a collective goes back to Jesus parable about the field where the enemy sows weeds. If we all step back and think Jesus (and I bet that there is an angel tapping into this stuff and reporting back) isn’t going to be impressed with the way that a lot of these discussions go, as he will see a difference between brothers (and sisters of course) that is spilling over in an a less than nice way (be angry but do not sin)
@medullah saidI am of the persuasion that we need to believe in Christ and that we need God’s Spirit or we don’t belong to God. I don’t accept that there is any other way to God than Jesus Christ. So those who think that God will or must accept them for anything less than Jesus Christ will not be accepted by God.
@KellyJay
The problem that we have as a collective goes back to Jesus parable about the field where the enemy sows weeds. If we all step back and think Jesus (and I bet that there is an angel tapping into this stuff and reporting back) isn’t going to be impressed with the way that a lot of these discussions go, as he will see a difference between brothers (and sisters of course) that is spilling over in an a less than nice way (be angry but do not sin)
The thing is, why would anyone want to go to the Father, who is obviously the projection of a disturbed Jewish man or men from thousands of years ago?
"God the Father", tempting people with the carrot of eternal life, and threatening them with the stick of eternal damnation.
The Path of Lucifer seems like a better path for those who want to assert their so-called God-given free will and personal sovereignty, and destroy the master-slave template of the psychotic Abrahamic vision of God (and of the people who invented it).
One can even imagine a hybrid Christo-Luciferianism for those who wish to commit to practicing higher ethical standards without the imperial baggage.
If people are "free in Christ" to submit to God, then that isn't freedom. Christianity is (very conveniently) a religion for slaves and for conniving controllers.
May the Light of Lucifer, the Light-Bringer, the Brother of Christ as well as Christ Himself, dispel all shadows.
@caesar-salad saidI believe that you may get you wish. There are plans to bring in a one world religion under the 1992/2012,Rio treaties. There would appear (at the moment) to be two contenders to lead it.
The thing is, why would anyone want to go to the Father, who is obviously the projection of a disturbed Jewish man or men from thousands of years ago?
"God the Father", tempting people with the carrot of eternal life, and threatening them with the stick of eternal damnation.
The Path of Lucifer seems like a better path for those who want to assert their so-called G ...[text shortened]... of Lucifer, the Light-Bringer, the Brother of Christ as well as Christ Himself, dispel all shadows.
@medullah saidIt's a pretty big Cosmos, which is why I'm skeptical of the belief systems of Earth while still thinking that some kind of Cosmic Intelligence is more likely than not.
I believe that you may get you wish. There are plans to bring in a one world religion under the 1992/2012,Rio treaties. There would appear (at the moment) to be two contenders to lead it.