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Originally posted by RetrovirusI believe that is what I said. So he is anointed for what?
"Messiah" just means "anointed one".
Originally posted by whodey"In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a Son of Man, coming with clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and power; all peoples, nations, and men of every language worshipped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
In Judism the Messiah is seen as the ONE who will liberate the Jewish people and who will bring ultimate peace on earth. Jews often refer to the Messiah as the one who will be the "liberator" of the Jewish people and not the "savior" of the Jewish people for obvious reasons. They do not refer to him as their savior in order to distance themselves from the t ...[text shortened]... t like Jesus? Why did John the Baptist say that he was not worthy to Baptize Jesus?
Originally posted by whodeyMy friend Jewish didn't understand that he is GOD.
It is apparent to me that Daniel sees the Son of Man as God. Otherwise why does eveyone worship him? Is it not written that we are to only worship the Lord our God and only serve him? It is also apparent to me that they viewed Christ as blashpeming by making himself out to be the Messiah as I pointed out in Mark 14:60. Therefore what the Jews believe toda ...[text shortened]... of little consequence to me. They can either believe there religious texts, or create new ones.
Originally posted by ahosyneyjohn 8:57 "Then said the Jews to him, "You are not tet 50 years old, and you have seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Verily, Verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am." They then took up stones to kill him for blasphemy.
When was Jesus GOD?
Before he was born.
During his life, after death.
He was a man in all cases and he was never GOD.
And during his life if he was GOD so where was the Father.[/b]
Originally posted by whodeyAnd what about Adam.
john 8:57 "Then said the Jews to him, "You are not tet 50 years old, and you have seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Verily, Verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am." They then took up stones to kill him for blasphemy.
Indeed, he sounds like an average every day prophet to me. I cannot help you understand the trinity. I have tried. All I can t ...[text shortened]... to are made in his image as a triune being. We are body, soul, and spirit, yet we are ONE.
Originally posted by ahosyneyWhat about Adam? Adam is dead. Christ is alive today and came to earth. Why? Was it to be a prophet? I don't know any prophets that could make the claim that they existed before Abraham including Mohammad. What then did we learn from him that was of such significance for him to come to earth? What major porphesy did he reveal? In short, what was the end result of him coming? Was it God's desire to decieve the world into believing that he was God? In fact, that is the end result of his coming.
And what about Adam.
Does this mean he is GOD. It imply that he is a creature, and a creature can't be GOD.
The trinity is taken from older religions, the link I posted show you that.
And what make you belive in Trinity. It is not mentioned in the Bible.
The only verse I know talk about Trinity doen't exist in the older manuscripts.
So why do you belive in something that doesn't exist.
Originally posted by whodeyMy friend the Bible doesn't say he is GOD.
What about Adam? Adam is dead. Christ is alive today and came to earth. Why? Was it to be a prophet? I don't know any prophets that could make the claim that they existed before Abraham including Mohammad. What then did we learn from him that was of such significance for him to come to earth? What major porphesy did he reveal? In short, what was the e ...[text shortened]... ieve the world into believing that he was God? In fact, that is the end result of his coming.
Originally posted by ahosyneyIt is therefore interesting that his followers referred to Christ as their God as well as in John 20:27.
[b]My friend the Bible doesn't say he is GOD.
He called him my GOD.
Originally posted by whodeyI hope GOD one day show you the right path....
It is therefore interesting that his followers referred to Christ as their God as well as in John 20:27.
I think we both know the scriptures and have both decided to take opposing views. Therefore I see very little productivity in spewing out those opposing views. So in closing, I would like to refer to what Christ said in Matthew 16:13.
"When Jes llowers not to repeat to others the truth about him once it had been revealed to them.