The Presumptuousness of Atheism

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you don't believe in absolute truth then you should ask someone to cut open your arm, and you will find the proof of the absolute truth that a cut to the arm draweth blood.

Even that is not an absoltute truth. You failed to indicate whether the arm was living or dead. A dead arm will not bleed so where is your absolute in that area?
Also what you describe as absolute truth can only be absolute belief.

Originally posted by Agerg
you deny the non-existance of God!!!...whether it is a double negative or not you now have to search every corner of the bloody universe to prove he does not *not exist*...happy hunting

So in other words you are saying that you need absolute knowledge to validate anything, since by validating something you are ruling out it's non-existence?

That is as absurd as you can get.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Even that is not an absoltute truth. You failed to indicate whether the arm was living or dead. A dead arm will not bleed so where is your absolute in that area?
Also what you describe as absolute truth can only be absolute belief.

Even that is not an absoltute truth. You failed to indicate whether the arm was living or dead.

Do you mean to say that Agerg would carry a dead arm with him or do you mean to say that Agerg is dead?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So in other words you are saying that you need absolute knowledge to validate anything, since by validating something you are ruling out it's non-existence?

That is as absurd as you can get.

I never said you need absolute knowledge to validate *anything*... I'm refuting your standpoint by arguing that you need absolute knowledge to deny the non existance of God!!! (because your entire argument is totally ridiculous, and so I choose to warp it such that it serves my own ends)

Prove to me that you are not *mistaken and that only the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true being that is transcendant over all others.

Originally posted by dj2becker
[b]Even that is not an absoltute truth. You failed to indicate whether the arm was living or dead.

Do you mean to say that Agerg would carry a dead arm with him or do you mean to say that Agerg is dead?[/b]

I am dead...prove I am not!!!

Originally posted by Agerg
I never said you need absolute knowledge to validate *anything*... I'm refuting your standpoint by arguing that you need absolute knowledge to deny the non existance of God!!! (because your entire argument is totally ridiculous, and so I choose to warp such that it serves my own ends)

Prove to me that you are not *mistaken and that only the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the true being that is transcendant over all others.

So how would you prove that there is no gold in China without having absolute knowledge of China?

Originally posted by Agerg
I am dead...prove I am not!!!

You just replied to my post.

You are alive!

Originally posted by dj2becker
So how would you prove that there is no gold in China without having absolute knowledge?

The same way you would you prove that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster without having absolute knowledge. 😉

I'm still waiting for your proof that the FSM does not exist!!!

Originally posted by dj2becker
You just replied to my post.

You are alive!

I am the ghost of Agerg...I'm still dead, you made an absolute negation that you cannot prove!!!

Originally posted by Agerg
The same way you'd would you prove that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster without having absolute knowledge. 😉

I'm still waiting for your proof that the FSM does not exist!!!

I never made the claim that the FSM does not exist.

Originally posted by Agerg
I am the ghost of Agerg...I'm still dead, you made an absolute negation that you cannot prove!!!

I can also play this game...

Prove that a ghost is not alive! 😀

Originally posted by dj2becker
I never made the claim that the FSM does not exist.

I now believe that The Flying Spaghetti monster lied to you all about God, and because he feels guilty about it he will now make himself *not exist*...prove this isn't so!

Originally posted by dj2becker
I can also play this game...

Prove that a ghost is not alive! 😀

I am the *not living* ghost of Agerg

Originally posted by Agerg
I now believe that The Flying Spaghetti monster lied to us all about God, and because he feels guilty about it he will now make himself *not exist*...prove this isn't so!

You are the one who has to prove that the FSM exists since you made the claim.

Originally posted by dj2becker
I never made the claim that the FSM does not exist.

You haven't resolved the *only being transcendent over others* bit