30 Nov '07 05:16>1 edit
Originally posted by amannionI'm not claiming that I know anyone has died for a lie. Nor in fact, am I claiming that any of the disciples died for a lie - knowingly.
How would I know the answer to that?
Gumby? The tooth fairy?
I'm not claiming that I know anyone has died for a lie. Nor in fact, am I claiming that any of the disciples died for a lie - knowingly.
I'm sure they believed the drivel you're spouting. I'm sure you believe it too.
But believing it doesn't make it true.
I can believe something is true even if it isn't - and I can die with and for that belief.
I'm sure they believed the drivel you're spouting. I'm sure you believe it too.
But believing it doesn't make it true.
I can believe something is true even if it isn't - and I can die with and for that belief.
Yes, but the apostles witnessed Christ's crucifixion and death, and afterwards, met Him after His resurrection. If they met Him after His death, then they did not have to believe in the resurrection second-hand like we do. Therefore, it is not possible that they could die for something that might not be true, for they had been first-hand witnesses to the fact.