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The Second Law of Thermodynamics

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Originally posted by dj2becker
[b]First off, UV light causes DNA damage and cancer by dimerizing thymine, it doesn't break down anything, it actually attaches two things (thymine molecules) to each other.

But that is less complex than a thymine and adenine attachment is it not?

We absorb some solar energy through our skin to generate vitamins.
Plants absorb solar energy ...[text shortened]... otherwise the high energy radiation destroys them as quickly as they are produced.
On earth it might get reduced after having been transformed into an amino acid. Conditions in space are totally differant, radiation comes in bundles and a definite trajectory, in other words there are gaps between these bundles so there can be a conversion and a long time before another quanta of energy whacks it. Besides that, certain membranes can form and reduce the damage to those molecules inside, a non living cell form that has been proven to exist in nature. Those cell can provide the shelter from some forms of energy to allow more complex molecules to be built up inside.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
You believe running water is intelligent?
Not intelligent enough to make the rocks live, I don't think...

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Originally posted by sonhouse
On earth it might get reduced after having been transformed into an amino acid. Conditions in space are totally differant, radiation comes in bundles and a definite trajectory, in other words there are gaps between these bundles so there can be a conversion and a long time before another quanta of energy whacks it. Besides that, certain membranes can form a ...[text shortened]... ide the shelter from some forms of energy to allow more complex molecules to be built up inside.
You sound like a speculating man...

Do you have any clue how many different amino acids are needed to form the simplest of proteins?

Then you still don't have life...

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Not intelligent enough to make the rocks live, I don't think...
That would make it even with your God who hasn't made rocks live either.

Why don't you simply admit that your assertion that there wasn't any such thing as a non-intelligent sorting mechanism is just flat out wrong?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
You sound like a speculating man...

Do you have any clue how many different amino acids are needed to form the simplest of proteins?

Then you still don't have life...
20.

But you don't need that many to catalyse many chemical reactions.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Free Radicals Baby! Its the new style on the block.
But free rads just have an extra electron - nothing to do with nuclear physics at all......

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Do you have the foggiest notion what the difference between a chemical compound and a single molecule is?

Now I suggest you get yourself a grade 9 chemistry textbook.

You are really wasting my time.
So that is your best response to my yes or no question? Do you know what a hydrogen molecule is? Trying to pretend that I don't understand chemistry up to at least the grade 9 level wont help you here.
I asked you a direct question and you have failed to give an answer.

I think you need to re-read my post and answer the question. If you do not I will take it as an admission that you were wrong and stop bothering with this thread as I have successfully proved my point.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
That would make it even with your God who hasn't made rocks live either.

Why don't you simply admit that your assertion that there wasn't any such thing as a non-intelligent sorting mechanism is just flat out wrong?
That would make it even with your God who hasn't made rocks live either.

People believe God made man from the dust of the earth.

Abiogenesis theory has it that for millions of years it rained on a rock and man arose from that mush...

Why don't you simply admit that your assertion that there wasn't any such thing as a non-intelligent sorting mechanism is just flat out wrong?

I simply cannot see how intelligence can arise from non-intelligence.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
20.

But you don't need that many to catalyse many chemical reactions.
Unless there is free hydrogen in the mixture no amino acids form. Also if there is the slightest trace of oxygen in the mixture no amino acids form.

It was proposed (in fact put forward as proven!), that the earth did indeed have such an atmosphere at some stage.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
So that is your best response to my yes or no question? Do you know what a hydrogen molecule is? Trying to pretend that I don't understand chemistry up to at least the grade 9 level wont help you here.
I asked you a direct question and you have failed to give an answer.

I think you need to re-read my post and answer the question. If you do not I will ...[text shortened]... that you were wrong and stop bothering with this thread as I have successfully proved my point.
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Originally posted by dj2becker
It is well known that, left to themselves, chemical compounds ultimately break apart into simpler materials; they do not ultimately become more complex.

So I will ask you a yes or no question:
If left to itself will a single hydrogen molecule break apart into two separate hydrogen atoms?


Now I am going to type this extra specially slow, and I suggest you clean your glasses before you attempt to read this, and I will put it in caps so that you won't have any excuse why you could not understand it...

I said, "CHEMICAL COMPUNDS ULTIMATELY BREAK INTO SIMPLER MATERIALS..."

THE HYDROGEN MOLECULE IS NOT AND I REPEAT, NOT A CHEMICAL COMPOUND. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS THE CASE I AGAIN SUGGEST THAT YOU READ A GRADE 9 CHEMISTRY TEXT BOOK.

Hint: A chemical compound is a chemical substance consisting of two or more different chemically bonded chemical elements, with a fixed ratio determining the composition. The ratio of each element is usually expressed by chemical formula. For example, water (H2O) is a compound consisting of two hydrogen atoms bonded to an oxygen atom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound

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deleted upon looking more carefully at your specific use of english

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Now I am going to type this extra specially slow, and I suggest you clean your glasses before you attempt to read this, and I will put it in caps so that you won't have any excuse why you could not understand it...

I said, "CHEMICAL [b]COMPUNDS
ULTIMATELY BREAK INTO SIMPLER MATERIALS..."

THE HYDROGEN MOLECULE IS NOT AND I REPEAT, [ ...[text shortened]... DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS THE CASE I AGAIN SUGGEST THAT YOU READ A GRADE 9 CHEMISTRY TEXT BOOK.[/b]
Now I am going to type this extra specially slow, and I suggest you clean your glasses before you attempt to read this, and I will put it in caps so that you won't have any excuse why you could not understand it...

ARE YOU CAPABLE OF ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION WITH A YES OR NO?
IF LEFT TO ITSELF WILL A SINGLE HYDROGEN MOLECULE BREAK APART INTO TWO SEPARATE HYDROGEN ATOMS?

Hint: at no point have I stated or implied that the hydrogen molecule is a chemical compound.
Hint2:Resorting to attempts at ridiculing me or my lowly maths degree wont get you anywhere.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
No it's not.
As a Dr of Biochemistry you should know better...

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Now I am going to type this extra specially slow, and I suggest you clean your glasses before you attempt to read this, and I will put it in caps so that you won't have any excuse why you could not understand it...

ARE YOU CAPABLE OF ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION WITH A YES OR NO?
IF LEFT TO ITSELF WILL A SINGLE HYDROGEN MOLECULE BREAK APART INTO T ...[text shortened]...
Hint2:Resorting to attempts at ridiculing me or my lowly maths degree wont get you anywhere.
The answer is no and you know it.

Now my question is what does that have to do with the price of eggs?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
As a Dr of Biochemistry you should know better...
When did I say this? What's it in reference to?

Pray tell, Deej, what does water decay into over time?

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