Originally posted by Suzianne
Do you think we're all stupid?
No. The #1 reason I say you're an idiot is because you cannot seem to keep your political trash opinions out of the Spirituality forum. Somehow, you've convinced the mods to keep your political crap in this forum as long as you "flavor" it with "religious-speak".
whodey: "See? Regressive taxation is good!! God does i ...[text shortened]... so it's good!"
Please, please, PLEASE keep your garbage political OPINIONS out of this forum.
Politics and religion go hand in hand. They both involve ideologies that govern our morality and our laws. They both provide a "savior" and a "devil". The savior in the secular world is either capitalism or socialism, and the devil is either government or corporations. in the end, none of the political/religious philosophies can be proved. They are simply adopted through belief.
Jesus attempted to distance himself from statists. He did not petition them, did not try to fight them, and did not try to join them. He said that his kingdom was not of this kingdom. However, Constantine hijacked the faith and used it to conquer with the sword setting up oppressive theocracies.
In terms of other religions like Islam, someone like Mohammad conquered with the sword and set up Islamic governments via Sharia law. For Muslims, religion and politics are joined at the hip. They always have been and always will be. There is no separating them
Now you have one of two choices. You can stick your head in the sand and pretend the two should never be joined, which I agree they should not, or you can take the Islamic/Constantine approach and insist that they be joined. Either way this conversation is ongoing whether you like it or not. I personally despise politics. Anyone who knows my political leanings understand this.
I guess what troubles me the most are the Constantine of the world. They are the ones who espouse following Christ but don't follow his examples. They say they belong to a church but ignore church teachings on such things as abortion. It's almost as if they have replaced their God with the god of partisanship. So be it, but I will call them out on it and it is a topic that involves spirituality, or lack thereof.