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The Trinity - A jewish theological perspective
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Originally posted by RJHindsReally really stretching it aren't we?
The Trinity - A jewish theological perspective
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Originally posted by galveston75When God said "us" in Genesis, I have heard of a couple theories. One is that God is Majestic and referred to Himself as We, like the Queen of England for example sometimes refers to her or her Kingdom as we..
Really really stretching it aren't we?
We you there when God spoke those words "Let us". No you weren't. So if you would actually be honest for a minute, you have no idea who he was speaking to do you?
Any idea who this is speaking of?
Proverbs 8:22-23
Good News Translation 22 “The Lord created me first of all,
the first of his works, long ago.
23 I was made in the very beginning,
at the first, before the world began.
Originally posted by checkbaiterActually it was no doubt Jesus and the angels. Jesus is described as being the "master worker" and was very much there and involved when his Father was creating and when his Father finally created man.
When God said "us" in Genesis, I have heard of a couple theories. One is that God is Majestic and referred to Himself as We, like the Queen of England for example sometimes refers to her or her Kingdom as we..
Another could be angels.
In any event I think what was meant is that God made man in His image, meaning He gave Adam and Eve holy spirit. So it could be angels since they are spirit too.
Originally posted by galveston75I don't think so, Jesus only existed in God's foreknowledge until the day he was created in Mary. But I will respect your opinion.
Actually it was no doubt Jesus and the angels. Jesus is described as being the "master worker" and was very much there and involved when his Father was creating and when his Father finally created man.
Originally posted by checkbaiterThanks for the respect. I wish others here would follow that example.
I don't think so, Jesus only existed in God's foreknowledge until the day he was created in Mary. But I will respect your opinion.
Originally posted by galveston75Proverbs is speaking of God's wisdom, all the verses you mentioned I have been over many times...
Thanks for the respect. I wish others here would follow that example.
But I'll ask you the same about this scripture: Who is this speaking of?
Proverbs 8:22-23
Good News Translation 22 “The Lord created me first of all,
the first of his works, long ago.
23 I was made in the very beginning,
at the first, before the world began.
And these ...[text shortened]... mes Version (NKJV)
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Originally posted by checkbaiterThanks but maybe I'm missing something with your answer about these verses saying that Jesus did exist before he came to earth as a human.
Proverbs is speaking of God's wisdom, all the verses you mentioned I have been over many times...
[b]Occasionally, a Trinitarian will use this verse to try to support the Trinity and the pre-existence of Christ by saying that “wisdom” was appointed from eternity, Christ is the “wisdom of God” (1 Cor. 1:24) and, therefore, Christ was from eternity. This ...[text shortened]... 73-75
All these verses are explained here...
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMuslims believe in a different God and a different Jesus just like you do. They can't make sense of the Trinity, and therefore, they also reject it like you do. All false religions reject the Trinity, so that should make Judgement day very easy for the SON of God.
hahaha, next it will be a Muslims guide to the trinity.