Originally posted by @fmf
[b]The Triumph of Christianity: How a Forbidden Religion Swept the World [2018]
[quote]From the bestselling authority on early Christianity, the story of how Christianity grew from a religion of twenty or so peasants in rural Galilee to the dominant religion in the West in less than four hundred years.
Christianity didn’t have to become the dominant r ...[text shortened]... 's read any of Bart D. Ehrman's 30 or so books ~ or this one ~ have any thoughts about his work?[/b]
This line itself... is it actually from Ehriman?
I would have thought he would have been more well versed to know that Matthew was a tax farmer, which would imply literacy and a very middle class existence.
They would also probably want to note that the brothers Zebedee were the sons of a fisherman that likely was a man of some means, owned his own vessel, etc., and may even have represented the equivalent of an upper middle class. Here, too, we could theoretically see them as literate.
Christ's temporal father Joseph was a carpenter, and Christ was able to spend lots of time in the synagogues discussing law. A carpenter was an artisan, and this is skilled labor in those days, also a member of the local middle class at a minimum.
The other occupations are unknown. If they were largely urban dwellers who were loosely affiliated with these other men, it might be true that they also had some artisans among them who were men of means.
Another important thing to remember: these 12 men, if you accept their testimony, probably had dozens & dozens of others who were Christians at the time. We have stories about Christ gathering large crowds in the low thousands and preaching to them. I believe the number that atheist historian Will Durant suggested to be accurate was that there would have been the 11 apostles plus Judas and another outer circle of more than a hundred people who would have been followers.
Remember, as well, that Christ would have fully inherited John the Baptist's crew...
Of course, if you reject what the Bible says and believe it was strategically manufactured to create a favorable narrative, then there is
almost no reason to discuss this sort of thing because it's pure speculation.