Originally posted by @fmfI don’t know what you mean by “finalize” and don’t think we ever discussed it. Maybe you did with another poster, but I’m pretty certain you didn’t with me
No. Because I used the term before. Talking to you. And I explained it. I was specific. So I don't need to repeat what I meant.
Originally posted by @romans1009It was in discussion with you.
I don’t know what you mean by “finalize” and don’t think we ever discussed it. Maybe you did with another poster, but I’m pretty certain you didn’t with me
Originally posted by @dj2beckerPain's not my bag dude.
I'm guessing you would like to bury it wherever it causes the most pain?
Speak to sonship about his eternal suffering in the fires of hell.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeDo you think what Jesus Christ went through (scourging and crucifixion) was painful?
Pain's not my bag dude.
Speak to sonship about his eternal suffering in the fires of hell.
Originally posted by @romans1009Because regardless of whether you believe Jesus Christ was the Son of God, even secular historians agree that Jesus Christ existed and was crucified.
Do you think what Jesus Christ went through (scourging and crucifixion) was painful?
Originally posted by @romans1009I'm certain all people who experienced such a thing endured a great deal of pain.
Do you think what Jesus Christ went through (scourging and crucifixion) was painful?
Do you think this equates with eternal suffering in the fires of hell?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI actually think what Jesus Christ went through on the cross - taking on the sins of the world - not to mention the severe scourging He received beforehand is far worse. The fact He was completely innocent and sinless makes what He willingly endured for us even more worthy of honor and respect.
I'm certain all people who experienced such a thing endured a great deal of pain.
Do you think this equates with eternal suffering in the fires of hell?
Originally posted by @romans1009That said, I’ve already said I don’t know if the doctrine of annihilationism or an eternity in hell is correct as I haven’t looked into it since I know I am saved and know I will be in paradise with Jesus when I die.
I actually think what Jesus Christ went through on the cross - taking on the sins of the world - not to mention the severe scourging He received beforehand is far worse. The fact He was completely innocent and sinless makes what He willingly endured for us even more worthy of honor and respect.
Originally posted by @romans1009I'm not going to disagree with you that being tortured and crucified (especially when innocent) is a terrible and painful way to die.
I actually think what Jesus Christ went through on the cross - taking on the sins of the world - not to mention the severe scourging He received beforehand is far worse. The fact He was completely innocent and sinless makes what He willingly endured for us even more worthy of honor and respect.
But 'far worse' that burning for all eternity in the fires of hell? Really?!
Originally posted by @romans1009As long as you do good works.
That said, I’ve already said I don’t know if the doctrine of annihilationism or an eternity in hell is correct as I haven’t looked into it since I know I am saved and know I will be in paradise with Jesus when I die.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeDoing good works is evidence one has genuinely accepted Christ into his or her heart and that God’s Holy Spirit has indwelt them and is changing their heart. And I do indeed do them.
As long as you do good works.
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Originally posted by @romans1009Jesus is the judge of good works.
Doing good works is evidence one has genuinely accepted Christ into his or her heart and that God’s Holy Spirit has indwelt them and is changing their heart. And I do indeed do them.
It is only an arrogant fool that proclaims his good works.
Worse in your case you think looking after your old mother is good works.
That is not good works according to Christ, whose teachings have gone straight into one of your ears and out the next.
Originally posted by @rajk999Why are you so angry and hostile? Is your anger and constant sinning in this forum by falsely representing what I have said and believe an indication you have God’s Holy Spirit within you or an indication you are living in the flesh?
Jesus is the judge of good works.
It is only an arrogant fool that proclaims his good works.
Worse in your case you think looking after your old mother is good works.
That is not good works according to Christ, whose teachings have gone straight into one of your ears and out the next.
“For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.“
(Romans 8:5-8)
You say you believe Jesus was/is the Son of God. Accept Him into your heart, believe in Him and on Him in your heart and let God’s Holy Spirit indwell you and change your heart.
You’re trying to stop sinning and to justify yourself before God on your own and failing miserably. Only God’s Holy Spirit can change your heart, and, consequently, your sinful behavior.