Originally posted by thorvo
He had to flood the whole earth to punish mankind because that was his way of getting rid of the incredible wickedness of the people on the earth. He chose that way, for whatever his reasons.
So, basically you're saying that even though you and I both could come
up with what seems to be either more humane, or more effective, more
convenient, or more sensible ways of addressing this same issue, you
simply set aside all of these things because of your complete deference
to the idea that 'God knows what he's doing.'
And why do you assume that the people were all over the earth?
Because we have records of their being all over the place. Do you disbelieve
these records?
It hadn't been too long after God made Adam and Eve that he sent the flood. Like 1000 years, maybe more, I dont know.
According to calculations from chapter 5 of Genesis (assuming that we
take at face value the accuracy of the geneology, and that people for
some reason lived five-to-nine times older than today, with modern
medicine and nutrition...), about 1700 years after Creation.
So, let's use some figures by Creationist a scholar. Check this site out:
http://ldolphin.org/pickett.html
If you pan to the bottom of the page, depending on how you calculate
when the flood is, and how many children you want to figure each person
had, he comes to a range of 2 billion to 11.5 billion. Let's be conservative
and say it's 2 billion. Do you think that every single one of those
two billion -- infants, elderly, children and adults -- was so evil as to
deserve death?
But the people didn't spread out everywhere. I wasnt there to see how Noah preached, or if he traveled all around the world to preach. But it does say that Noah told the people over and over to repent.
It does? I can't find a single reference about Noah's preaching.
But let's pretend he did preach. Do you think that all two billion lived
in an area proximate enough to Noah for him to preach? Do you believe
that no one was living in North and South America or that Noah went
there? Do you believe that Noah went to modern-day China or England?
Yes, I believe that only Noah, his wife and three sons and their wives were the only good people on the earth at the time.
So you think that 2 billion people, minus eight were so evil and depraved
that God had no choice but to eradicate them after giving them a
chance to repent? All of them?
Surely if God saved Noah and his family, very few out of so many wicked, why would he not save someone else that were good too? it doesnt make sense.
Do you think it makes sense that 2 billion people were that evil? Do
you think that it makes sense that 2 billion people all were offered the
chance to repent? Do you think that it makes sense that infants were
also slaughtered, even though they lacked the capacity for evil or goodness?
I don't think these things make any sense, especially if you attribute
the characteristics of compassion, clemency, righteousness, and
generosity to God like I do (that's not to mention the notion of free will,
for what good is free will if, upon exercising it, you get smitten).
And, since there is no scientific evidence of a world-wide flood and given
that God's character is inconsistent with such a savage slaughtering of
humankind, I reject the historicity of the account. If I did believe in the
historicity of the flood, I could not, in good faith, worship a 'god' who was
so depraved, for that 'god' is not the same 'God' who embodies the
essence of love (agape).
Nemesio
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03 Apr '08 06:53
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