Originally posted by vistesdMatter is equivalent to energy. That's why I didn't post it.
Energy. Space is a dimensional term (like time).
Okay, I’ll bite—
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To the OP - anyone who answers that question with certainty is irrational. As far as I know, no, there is nothing else...well there's time/entropy, but that's really just defined in terms of the way matter is distributed into space.
So, tentatively, I'll say, no, there is nothing else.
When you say "what would it be like" - what is "it"? There would be no people to experience anything in such a case.
Originally posted by twhiteheadEnergy is matter, and information describes how matter or energy is distributed in space I believe. The fundamental laws simply describe the properties of matter and space.
The is also energy, information, and the fundamental laws of the universe (whatever they may be).
Originally posted by AThousandYoungNo it isn't. Once can be converted to the other, but they are not the same thing. I might accept it if you said 'matter is a form of energy' but not all energy is matter.
Energy is matter,
and information describes how matter or energy is distributed in space I believe.
Yes, but information isn't matter either.
The fundamental laws simply describe the properties of matter and space.
True, but they too are not matter.
Originally posted by twhiteheadAll right. Matter is a form of energy then. So, the initial post might work better if we said "Is there anything besides energy and space?".
No it isn't. Once can be converted to the other, but they are not the same thing. I might accept it if you said 'matter is a form of energy' but not all energy is matter.
[b]and information describes how matter or energy is distributed in space I believe.
Yes, but information isn't matter either.
The fundamental laws simply describe the properties of matter and space.
True, but they too are not matter.[/b]
When it is said that matter and space exist, all of the characteristics of both are contained within that statement. When one says information exists they have added nothing to the set of what exists, because it was implied when matter and space were said to exist. You could also say mass exists, and protons exist, and electrical charge exists, and rocks exist, and gases exist, and density exists, and volume exists, and cubes exist, etc. but all that has already been implied simply by stating that matter (or rather, energy) and space exist.
In other words, information, abstraction, etc. are not "anything else" other than space and energy/matter as the OP puts it.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungBut objects clearly differ from each other.
All right. Matter is a form of energy then. So, the initial post might work better if we said "Is there anything besides energy and space?".
When it is said that matter and space exist, all of the characteristics of both are contained within that statement. When one says information exists they have added nothing to the set of what exists, becau ...[text shortened]... traction, etc. are not "anything else" other than space and energy/matter as the OP puts it.