Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i have heard people say "look around you", that is proof within itself. it would be an ENORMOUS coincidence that an explosion happened, and created life so nicely for humans on earth. do you really believe that particles got scattered by the big bang and somehow some way were brought together to make animals, plants, and everything else on this earth? ...[text shortened]... e technology we have exploited and in the beginning we had cattle, farms etc. it is all for us
I am a believer of the existence of a creator. I am inclined to believe that it is far-fetched that atomic reactions occured randomly, even over a very, very long time, to produce us and everything around us. But I have no evidence of a creator and I accept that I may be totally wrong in what I believe.
However, I don't believe in religions-- any of them! They are mainly some sort of political parties, forever trying to recruit more and more members to become stronger.
What's annoying is the fact that these religious people often criticize the non-believers, and state so positively that the non-believers would end up in hell when they die. Come to think if it, it is quite amusing that they can be so sure of this, even though they themselves have not been to heaven or hell.
So we have here a great deal of guesswork on both parties. On the one hand, one party says that we can't possibly emerge from nothing into something so complex and unique without something directing the processes along the way. On the other hand, the other party says there is no evidence of a creator.
In opinion, both have equal strength in their respective arguments. The difference, in my opinion, lies in the approaches to arrive at the opposing conclusions. One party is solely based on faith
. They sometimes would like to claim that they base their beliefs in logical thinking too. But I don't believe this to be the case. The other party argues mainly along the lines of tangible evidence and other proven facts, plus some logical thinking.
I am inclined to take the mid-way position.
If I find a book that claims a sheep can fly, I have the choice of believing it or not. I can choose to say that since this book was written by a famous scientist, he must
have a very good reason to make that statement; and he must
have carried out tests etc to prove that fact and saw the sheep fly with his own eyes. On the other hand, I can also insist to see the sheep fly with my very own eyes before I can believe it as a fact. Only, and only if, I see it fly with my own eyes, will I believe. So how do I go about it? I start throwing off sheeps one by one from the edge of a cliff. The first one goes straight down to its death. OK, that's evidence no. 1 that sheep can't fly. Then continue with a second sheep. And on and on. When I come to the 1000th sheep, still the same thing happens. I think it is unfair to blame this guy if he doesn't believe that a sheep can fly.
The religious people base their beliefs mainly on a book that was supposedly written by people who actually saw some of the events themselves. But many more events were not actually written by eye-witnesses; far from it. They were written many, many generations later! Events might have been distorted, amended to suit special purposes. At least the possibility is there. And there is no evidence that this did not happen. In fact, there are claims that it did happen! At any rate, there are just too many inconsistencies found in many holybooks. We have gods setting rules which they themselves break. Of course the religious people have answers for this too. We have rules and laws that are open to so many ways of interpretations that render them useless anyway.
The religious people would fight tooth and nail on issues such as abortions etc. They claim that that amounts to killing; but not remembering that god not only killed these unborn infants, but also their mothers in the great flood. And he did it in a grand scale! But then again, it's OK for god to kill. He has the right to kill whatever he creates in the first place!
So in the end, which would you believe:
1. Believe in a creator and a religion; or
2. Don't believe in a creator at all; or
3. Believe in a creator, but not in any religion.
I am for no. 3. But I stress, I have no evidence for the existence of god!