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Originally posted by FMF
Isn't it based on The Fact that it's self-evident?
How is Truth self evident?

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never mind.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Bit of a catch 22 isn't it?
No.

A catch 22 means either option gives the same result. Like damned if you do or damned if you don't.

But The Truth is unequivocal. When one knows The Truth one is free, but when one knows not The Truth one is enslaved by Truth's counterfeit the lie.

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Originally posted by yoctobyte
How is Truth self evident?
If it's declared to be so ~ presumably ~ by a Christian, for example. josephw does it all the time ~ sometimes, it's as if it's ALL he does. 😉

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Originally posted by josephw
But The Truth is unequivocal. When one knows The Truth one is free, but when one knows not The Truth one is enslaved by Truth's counterfeit the lie.
What about "The Truth" according to Hindus, Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses, for example?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
I would listen to his voice if I heard it. Are you too proud and stubborn to realise that it isn't his voice you are hearing? (It might be those pesky pixies though).
Obviously, you are not one of His sheep. 😏

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Originally posted by FMF
What about "The Truth" according to Hindus, Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses, for example?
It is also obvious to me that they are not His sheep either. 😏

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Originally posted by yoctobyte
What is your truth based on?
Why, the complete absence of gods, fairies and pixies, of course! 🙄

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Originally posted by FMF
Isn't it based on The Fact that it's self-evident?
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Thomas Jefferson

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Originally posted by josephw
A catch 22 means either option gives the same result.
No it is not.
Catch 22 refers to paradoxical situations
For example;
banks only lending money to people who have money.
employers only taking on people with experience.
god proving his existence only to people who already believe in him.
being too unfit to exercise.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Thomas Jefferson
That was the guy who had all the slaves, right?

Seems it was not so self-evident, even to the man himself.

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Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
That was the guy who had all the slaves, right?

Seems it was not so self-evident, even to the man himself.
This is where it comes from, unless anybody has an earlier quote. I am open to correction. 😏

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Some truths ARE "self-evident". TJ just found it expedient to abrogate his slaves' "unalienable" rights.

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Originally posted by josephw
A catch 22 means either option gives the same result. Like damned if you do or damned if you don't.
You said you listen to The Truth when you hear it. But you later you said you can only hear when you listen. Definitely a catch 22.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
Some truths ARE "self-evident". TJ just found it expedient to abrogate his slaves' "unalienable" rights.
That particular 'truth' (T.J.'s) is not self evident.

But then in my experience people who claim something is 'self evident' typically do so to avoid giving a rational explanation.