1. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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  2. Standard membertelerion
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    10 Oct '05 01:35
    We could be more precise and say perhaps the the old testament story of the exodus of the israelites from egypt and the conquest of caanan. That's some good fiction.
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    10 Oct '05 01:39
    Originally posted by telerion
    We could be more precise and say perhaps the the old testament story of the exodus of the israelites from egypt and the conquest of caanan. That's some good fiction.
    So it's good... Until you back up that fiction claim, we'll keep it at "good", if not downright spectacular!
  4. Standard membertelerion
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    10 Oct '05 01:591 edit
    Originally posted by RatX
    So it's good... Until you back up that fiction claim, we'll keep it at "good", if not downright spectacular!
    Some say that absence of evidence doesn't imply evidence of absence, but I think if you are honest enough to do some digging into the archaeology literature that has investigated the claim of at least 600,000 Israelites (certainly far more as this was only a count of the fighting men) plus all their livestock marching from egypt (despite fairly detailed egyptian records through out that time perioid, there is no mention of israelite slaves or their exodus) and hanging out in the patch of desert mentioned in the OT for over 40 years, you'll find that there's not a single trace of their passage. Experts can uncover small settlements of fewer than 300 people. 40+ years of at least 600,000 and more realistically 3 million people eating, pissing, building, herding, and otherwise living, would show up.

    But it's not there. Even the two-bit apologists like Lee Strobel, who if the evidence were there, would be on it like a fly on dung, are silent. The OT gets history of the area pretty well around the 7th century BCE, (certainly because that was when it was written), but when it tries to give accounts of the history and geography before that, it has blatant errors.

    The whole story of Moses leading the israelites out of Egypt and Joshua conquering the land of Caanan was a Hebrew folklore made up well after the events were said to occur. All it takes is a bit of courage to investigate what mainstream archaeologists who study that area have to say on the subject. Well and you could do some mathematics to realize that the population growth rates are pretty silly too, especially when one considers what average populations were at the time the story supposedly occured.
  5. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    10 Oct '05 07:50
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Pity. We could have had a good scuffle on that one. I'm wasn't sure how Ivan would warm up to any of my jabs.
    Are they meant to innoculate. stimulate or anaesthetise?
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    10 Oct '05 08:44
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Books:
    The Stand
    Shardik
    Cat's Cradle

    Movies:
    Dogma
    Life of Brian
    Kingpin

    South Park Episodes:
    Red Hot Catholic Love
    Super Best Friends
    Passion of the Jew
    Christian Rock Hard
    Well...

    Books:

    The Name of the Rose (not very sympathetic of Christianity - Eco rarely is - but a cracking yarn nevertheless)
    Lord of the Rings (not strictly religious fiction, IMO, but people seem to think it is because Tolkien was a Catholic and LotR has some religious motifs)
    Dune (more religious than LotR, IMO; gives the "insider" view of a Messiah)
    The Poet and the Lunatics
    Chronicles of Narnia

    Films:

    Ben Hur
    A Man for All Seasons (a historical biopic, actually)
    The Exorcist
    The Third Miracle

    Television:

    Father Dowling Mysteries (who'd have thunk it? LOL)
  7. Standard memberivangrice
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    10 Oct '05 11:35
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Pity. We could have had a good scuffle on that one. I'm wasn't sure how Ivan would warm up to any of my jabs.
    He'd probably end up slightly bemused as you flail about, missing the target again and again...
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    Books
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    Dune - Frank Herbert (all 6 books must be read to really understand the story)
    His Dark Materials - Phillip Pulman
    The Night's Dawn Trilogy - Peter Hamilton
    The Bible

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    Cecille B de Mille's 10 Commandments
    The Matrix Trilogy
    The Golden Child
    Rosemary's Baby
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    10 Oct '05 12:251 edit
    The Divine Comedy (Dante).
    The Golden Ass (Apuleius).
    A Season in Hell (Rimbaud).
    Jerusalem (Blake).
    The Anathemata (David Jones).
    The Faery Queen (Spenser).
    The Handmaid's Tale (Atwood).
    Pilgrim's Progress (Bunyan).
    The Clerkenwell Tales (Ackroyd).
    A Christmas Carol (Dickens).

    + A Glastonbury Romance (John Cowper Powys)
  10. Standard memberHalitose
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    10 Oct '05 16:54
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Are they meant to innoculate. stimulate or anaesthetise?
    Educate...
  11. Standard memberHalitose
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    10 Oct '05 16:55
    Originally posted by ivangrice
    He'd probably end up slightly bemused as you flail about, missing the target again and again...
    lol. Depends what the target it...
  12. Et in Arcadia ego...
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    10 Oct '05 17:30
    Why has noone mentioned Dan Givemeallyourmoneydooo Brown?
  13. Standard membertelerion
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    10 Oct '05 19:21
    The Pendragon Cycle by Stephen R. Lawhead was pretty good.


    The Song of Albion series by him was ok.
  14. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    10 Oct '05 19:23
    Originally posted by sjeg
    Why has noone mentioned Dan Givemeallyourmoneydooo Brown?
    Those aren't fiction.
  15. Standard memberHalitose
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    10 Oct '05 19:59
    Originally posted by telerion
    The Pendragon Cycle by Stephen R. Lawhead was pretty good.


    The Song of Albion series by him was ok.
    I've read a lot of Steven Lawhead's books. Pretty darn good, IMO.
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