Vatican accuses Amnesty of immorality

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Bump, Luciferhammer...

Sorry, I have been busy for a while.

To answer your question - no, I don't intuit biological complexity directly as a criterion for moral consideration. Rather, it has to do with what faculties that complexity entails.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
How do you know that the intended agenda is subjugation, and that the subjugation does not merely occur in passing, in pursuance of another agenda? The claim that subjugation is an agenda is far more substantial that the claim that it merely occurs; hence, it requires more substantial argument and evidence. Can you provide it?

Subjugation is an active, not passive, word. Definitions include "to make subservient" and "to force into submission". Subjugation does not just happen accidentally. You have to make it happen. Therefore, to claim that it could merely occur in passing makes no sense.