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Originally posted by gaychessplayerfunny!🙂
I once prayed this prayer: "God, please grant me the virtue of patience...RIGHT NOW!!" 🙂
Originally posted by gaychessplayerYou must be new here. You're in for a treat. Go ahead and be "nicer than Jesus" if you want to. As for me, imo, anyone that denies the existance of God in the face of reality is deluded.
Please be respectful and polite and not refer to someone else's opinion as "incredibly child like ignorrance(sic)."
I think we can all "agree to disagree agreeably!"
Originally posted by josephwI believe in the existence of God. Telling someone that they are "deluded" because they don't believe in God only makes a modicum of sense if you give the poor "deluded" soul a good argument for the existence of God. Calling them "deluded" and then not providing a good argument because they "wouldn't believe it anyway" is condescending. Instead of name calling, how about giving a good argument that we can all discuss?
You must be new here. You're in for a treat. Go ahead and be "nicer than Jesus" if you want to. As for me, imo, anyone that denies the existance of God in the face of reality is deluded.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI'm not saying that Darwins theories are 100% wrong, he made significant contributions to science. But I would be to say it takes tremendous faith to believe that all of this (the world) happened by chance.
Just because you don't like it or don't believe it doesn't translate into 'holes'. His theory is a sound and valid today as it ever was and the core theory has not changed.
Whether or not you personally need to take a 'leap of faith' to believe it is irrelevant. There is no contradictory evidence and plenty of supporting evidence and no other reasonable competing theories, so it remains a valid scientific theory.
Originally posted by jaywill(...what did i do to make this appear in bold... i didn't want to.....)
Mdhall,
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Point is: No, the bible is not written by god, it's not untainted by translations and the inevitable scholastic debating surrounding translation of an epic piece of literature spanning several languages and cultures. It's not untainted from political aspirations from both kings and bishops.
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Originally posted by gaychessplayerIMO there is only one person you need to prove the exitance of God to, that is yourself. 1John chapter 4 tells us how we know of Gods existance. Those who have loved know God, for God is love. Yes even "athiests" know God, if they have ever loved anyone, or anything. Not my words, the bibles.
I believe in the existence of God. Telling someone that they are "deluded" because they don't believe in God only makes a modicum of sense if you give the poor "deluded" soul a good argument for the existence of God. Calling them "deluded" and then not providing a good argument because they "wouldn't believe it anyway" is condescending. Instead of name calling, how about giving a good argument that we can all discuss?
Originally posted by duecerI'm glad to note that you trust the Bible. That means that you now know that Christ is your Lord and Savior. Praise God!
IMO there is only one person you need to prove the exitance of God to, that is yourself. 1John chapter 4 tells us how we know of Gods existance. Those who have loved know God, for God is love. Yes even "athiests" know God, if they have ever loved anyone, or anything. Not my words, the bibles.
Originally posted by jaywillI would not like to trade places with you. 😉
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I'm the one who's free. You are chained to your beliefs.
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I would not like to trade places with you.
Eternal life is very free. The possibilities for enjoyment are infinite.
I'm free to enjoy God for eternity. That's pretty free.[/b]
Originally posted by jaywillThat's beautiful. You believe there's eternal life and TCHARAN, there it is. That's a huge lollipop to start believing gods. Every religion has it, but not enough for me. I would prefer to do research on cryogenics if I wanted to live forever. What a boredom... living forever would turn life meaningless. Everything you would do wouldn't matter... oh... but you would be loving your god all the time, so time would pass really quick, i forgot. That's a great plan!! You're real life in earth will be a bore and then you would have a even more boring eternal life. Don't want to change, sorry.
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I'm the one who's free. You are chained to your beliefs.
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I would not like to trade places with you.
Eternal life is very free. The possibilities for enjoyment are infinite.
I'm free to enjoy God for eternity. That's pretty free.[/b]
Originally posted by gaychessplayerGive it your best shot. Start a new thread with your best argument for the existence of God. I'll be looking forward to the debate.
I believe in the existence of God. Telling someone that they are "deluded" because they don't believe in God only makes a modicum of sense if you give the poor "deluded" soul a good argument for the existence of God. Calling them "deluded" and then not providing a good argument because they "wouldn't believe it anyway" is condescending. Instead of name calling, how about giving a good argument that we can all discuss?