Originally posted by sonhouse Just how did you get that? I said MUSLIM parents are teaching their kids in a programming way to call Jews apes and animals. I saw that with my own three eyes.
But how does that translate to your claim that Christians do not do the same thing? I mentioned the holocaust because it was what resulted from Christians doing essentially just that.
I must also point out that there are Jews in Israel that do something very similar with regards to Palestinians.
And then we could talk about your own country and its history of slavery and racism - largely perpetrated by Christians.
Originally posted by twhitehead But how does that translate to your claim that Christians do not do the same thing? I mentioned the holocaust because it was what resulted from Christians doing essentially just that.
I must also point out that there are Jews in Israel that do something very similar with regards to Palestinians.
And then we could talk about your own country and its history of slavery and racism - largely perpetrated by Christians.
That is not true. Real Christians were the ones that helped the Jews and hid them from the Nazis. And real American Christians were the ones that spoke up against slavery and fought to set them free.
Originally posted by RJHinds That is not true. Real Christians were the ones that helped the Jews and hid them from the Nazis. And real American Christians were the ones that spoke up against slavery and fought to set them free.
And those people who actually helped were deep in the minority.
Originally posted by FMF As ghastly as cases such as the one in the OP are, unfortunately Dasa's professed stance on Muslims is not one that advocates pluralism, modernisation, moderation or inter-faith toleration, but is instead one in which he has explicitly and unapologetically advocated mass murder and a worldwide genocide, justified ~ in his mind ~ by his own religious beliefs.
Just pretend they are all unborn or something. 😵
Originally posted by RJHinds That is not true. Real Christians were the ones that helped the Jews and hid them from the Nazis. And real American Christians were the ones that spoke up against slavery and fought to set them free.
Sonhouse said nothing about 'real Christians'. He said 'Christians'. I am sure some Muslims will assure us that the Muslims Sonhouse saw in a video were not real Muslims.
Originally posted by RJHinds That is not true. Real Christians were the ones that helped the Jews and hid them from the Nazis. And real American Christians were the ones that spoke up against slavery and fought to set them free.
You say that christians hid jews from christians?
The nazis were christians, didn't you know? Did you really think they were muslims?
Originally posted by FabianFnas You say that christians hid jews from christians?
The nazis were christians, didn't you know? Did you really think they were muslims?
Most of the Nazis leadership were atheists or pagans as can be seen here:
The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was an ideology founded on Christianity. There was some diversity of views among the Nazi leadership as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and Minister for Propaganda Joseph Goebbels, the neo-pagan official Nazi Philosopher Alfred Rosenberg and security chief Heinrich Himmler. Some Nazis, such as Hans Kerrl, who served as Hitler's Minister for Church Affairs, believed Christianity could be Nazified into "Positive Christianity", by renouncing its Jewish origins, the Old Testament and Apostle's Creed, and holding Hitler as a new "Messiah". Hitler himself believed that in the long run, National Socialism and religion would not be able to co-exist, but was prepared temporarily to restrain some of his more radical instincts out of political considerations.
Nazism wanted to transform the subjective consciousness of the German people—their attitudes, values and mentalities—into a single-minded, obedient "national community". The Nazis believed they would therefore have to replace class, religious and regional allegiances. Under the Gleichschaltung process, Hitler attempted to create a unified Protestant Reich Church from Germany's 28 existing Protestant churches. The plan failed, and was resisted by the Confessing Church. Persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany followed the Nazi takeover. Hitler moved quickly to eliminate political catholicism. Amid harassment of the Church, the Reich concordat treaty with the Vatican was signed in 1933, and promised to respect Church autonomy. Hitler routinely disregarded the Concordat, closing all Catholic institutions whose functions were not strictly religious. Clergy, nuns, and lay leaders were targeted, with thousands of arrests over the ensuing years. The Church accused the regime of "fundamental hostility to Christ and his Church". Smaller religious minorities such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and Bahá'í Faith were banned in Germany, while the eradication of Judaism by the genocide of its adherents was attempted. It is generally believed by historians that Hitler and the Nazis intended to eradicate Christianity in Germany after winning victory in the war.
Originally posted by RJHinds Most of the Nazis leadership were atheists or pagans as can be seen here:
The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was an ideology founded on Christianity. [b]There was some diversity of views among the Nazi leadership as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and M ...[text shortened]... y after winning victory in the war.
Originally posted by RJHinds Most of the Nazis leadership were atheists or pagans as can be seen here:
The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was an ideology founded on Christianity. [b]There was some diversity of views among the Nazi leadership as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and M ...[text shortened]... y after winning victory in the war.
Originally posted by twhitehead Nevertheless, you assured us that you were not in favor of helping the girls in Nigeria. I guess you are not a Real Christian.
Strawman!
I did not say I was not in favor of helping the girls in Nigeria. However, I don't want to help them get killed.
Originally posted by twhitehead Sonhouse said nothing about 'real Christians'. He said 'Christians'. I am sure some Muslims will assure us that the Muslims Sonhouse saw in a video were not real Muslims.
Well, some claim there are moderate Muslims and radical Muslims.
The False Dichotomy: Moderate Muslims vs. Radicals
Which is the good Muslim? Let the real Muslim stand up.
Vile and absurd.
22 May '14 09:37
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