30 Sep '11 00:02>2 edits
Originally posted by RJHindsI didn't decide not to be a Christian. I decided not to believe in any god/gods.
You don't even have a Bible, you said. So how can you possibly have
enough knowledge to think about it and come to any rational decision?
You are too ignorant to do so.
Have you read every holy book of every religion to decide that you don't believe them?
You are an atheist to every religion (god) but one... I just went one step further.
I don't need to read the bible to be an atheist because no book is going to convince me god exists.
Regardless of what it says.
To prove an extraordinary claim you need extraordinary proof.
The bible, and any other holy book, proves nothing beyond their own existence (and a few other trivialities).
We have discussed before what it might take for me to believe in the existence of god and the bible doesn't cut it.
I look for evidence for what reality might be, (whatever it might be) in the world around me, through scientific skepticism,
experimentation and reason.
I have, and have access to, a lot of knowledge gained this way.
However what I don't have any of is evidence for the existence of a god or deity of any kind.
Absent that the default position is non-belief.... ie agnostic atheism.
Also for you to call anyone ignorant makes me think strongly of the phrase...
Pot, kettle, black.
However don't let that deter you.
EDIT: also I would refer you to this guy http://www.atheist-experience.com/people/matt_dillahunty/
Who has certainly read the bible, in great depth, and was intending to be a minister.
And he will tell you that you don't need to read the bible justifiably not believe in god, and why.
Given what I have said about the bits of the bible I have read I would think you would want to discourage me from
reading more of it lest I come across the bits where it condones rape, incest, genocide, and slavery....
Except I already did....
EDIT2: For complete accuracy's sake, I did have a bible... and possibly still do... somewhere...
I got given one on leaving my C of E junior school... which was a Highly disappointing leavers gift at the time.
Some time between then and now it's location has become undetermined.
Such that if I do still have it, I can't find it....
Fortunately a great number of people have seen fit to put the bible online, where i can read it in all its... um... glory...
As I said before, this is probably not to your advantage, as the more I read the less I like it.
If I had actually tried to read my bible I would probably have binned the thing before I reached the end.
However as all the version are so different, accessing it online and so seeing all the different version is better
as I can see how much the translations agree, or not, as the case might be.