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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
-- Stephen Roberts
Originally posted by Hand of HecateNonsense.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
Originally posted by Hand of HecateA truly magnificent quote!
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
Originally posted by Hand of HecateDoes this statement still hold if presented to a polytheist?
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
Originally posted by Hand of Hecatebegins with an assumption i am afraid and as we know, its a very shaky foundation from which to base anything.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
-- Stephen Roberts
Originally posted by PalynkaThat is not an easy question to answer. Perhaps the closest I can get is to express my own concerns about religion in general.
Why do theists dismiss other gods?
I can think of at least one possibility where disbelief in all religions but one is not inconsistent.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateInteresting post, thanks. Your personal views seem reasonable given the material evidence available.
I know I haven't really answered your question, however, the very argument I've put forth here for the abolishment of all religion as pure fantasy is exactly the argument monotheists will put forth against other religions. Pure fantasy all the way around.
Originally posted by robbie carrobiewrong, it is based on a contention, or idea. it is sound reasoning for the most part. It only fails, however, if the other person is a polytheist.
begins with an assumption i am afraid and as we know, its a very shaky foundation from which to base anything.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateIt is entirely possible that I've misunderstood the quote. If there is a clear and relevant connection between the body of argumentation, for and against, whether or not an all-powerful God exists and the polytheism vs monotheism debate, then it should not be difficult for you to elucidate.
Your failure to understand does not necessarily make the quote "nonsense".
Originally posted by divegeesterBelieve what you like. Still, it has been my opinion that any reconciliation of various religions is a forced process at best and often accompanied by a fair amount of fantasy in itself.
Interesting post, thanks. Your personal views seem reasonable given the material evidence available.
However would you agree that the right to freethinking and freespeech includes the right to believe in a god (or gods) of an individuals choosing.
Also, the final statement you make about why theists reject other gods as "pure fantasy" is incorrect at least for a large proportion.
Originally posted by duecerwrong it assumes many things on many different levels, firstly its a subjective point of view, secondly that the individual is monotheistic, thirdly that there is no God, its premise after premise after premise...its a complete failure of a statement
wrong, it is based on a contention, or idea. it is sound reasoning for the most part. It only fails, however, if the other person is a polytheist.
Originally posted by duecerPlease elaborate upon your definition of "polytheist" and how you propose to reconcile often mutually exclusive religious concepts.
wrong, it is based on a contention, or idea. it is sound reasoning for the most part. It only fails, however, if the other person is a polytheist.
Originally posted by Hand of Hecatemove forward?, take a look around you for goodness sake, is this what you deem progress?
Believe what you like. Still, it has been my opinion that any reconciliation of various religions is a forced process at best and often accompanied by a fair amount of fantasy in itself.
Religion is being forced to evolve in the face of social, economic and scientific changes. This has been the painful state of affairs for hundreds of years. Don't you want us to move forward?