Originally posted by RJHinds
Do Muslims and Christians Worship and Pray to the Same God?
[b]I think we can say with confidence that any monotheist who calls out to the Lord is heard by the Lord, whether it’s a Muslim, a pagan philosopher seeking the God of reason, or a Native American petitioning the Great Spirit. As Lumen Gentium 16 continues, God is not “far distant from those who ...[text shortened]... and-the-one-god
Here is the thing: a real god would not set up a religion that would have people killing each other over religion. That I firmly believe to my dying day. That has to mean there is 1: more than one god, where they compete with each other for the following of the most humans they can dupe, or
there is no god, where the entire edifice of religion is just made up by men who merely want political control of entire populations, which has worked out incredibly well, with billions of people duped by one religion or the other.
BTW, you know full well about my desire to have freedom FROM religion.
I had another case of religion shoved in my face yesterday at a court hearing for a family matter. This twit stenographer tells us to raise our right hand and agree everything we say will be the truth under the great god who controls everything and is all to us, something like that, extending the normal court saying to a full paragraph about the greatness of god. I had to maintain a calm exterior if I didn't want to bias the judge into going against our wishes but inside I was fuming at this flagrant introduction of religious bullshyte into a courtroom setting. I SO wanted to just respond 'where do you get off sticking your obvious own religious dogma into a simple courtroom statement about saying the truth? I didn't though, but today I am still seething at that religious affront.
It ticks me off to even have to acknowledge the usual 'what you say is the truth and nothing but the truth so help you god' or however it goes.
Exactly what good does it do to place your hand on a bible if you are agnostic or atheist and go blah blah blah 'so help me god'? Exactly how is that going to extract truth out of a testimony? The whole thing is just BS. A liar is not going to all of a sudden change his story because he has his hand on the bible. The whole thing is ridiculous.
It goes 180 degrees away from the idea there is supposed to be a separation of church and state.
But there it is, CHURCH crap right in the middle of millions of court proceedings.
Of course, the billions of duped ones will get all teary eyed and totally agree to tell the truth because they know that commandment not to lie.
Please let me go off somewhere to puke.