10 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeDo you believe what you like and reject what you like from the Catholic Catechism?
For the liberal Christians:
"If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself."
Saint Augustine
Or do you believe it or reject it in its entirety?
10 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhen St. Augustine referred to the "gospels" was he referring to those books of the New Testament with the teachings of Jesus or was he referring to the entire Bible including the murderous passages in the Old Testament?
For the liberal Christians:
"If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself."
Saint Augustine
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by Jay PeateaFind me a christian and I'll find you a part of the bible that he's (or she's) ignoring because it's too inconvenient to follow.
Believe in slavery
Titus 2:9-10
Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, and not to steal from them
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemFind me a Christian who doesn't think the Bible is inerrant, literal truth and I'll find you another Christian who will tell her she's ignoring those parts just because they're too inconvenient to follow, without regard to whether it makes any sense to follow them or not. (Same for other religions, too.)
Find me a christian and I'll find you a part of the bible that he's (or she's) ignoring because it's too inconvenient to follow.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by Jay PeateaWhere exactly does it tell us to go out and get a slave?
Believe in slavery
Titus 2:9-10
Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, and not to steal from them
I can take anything out of context and make it appear evil. Including the letter your mom wrote you for your birthday.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusIt doesn't, but it does imply that slavery is sanctioned, otherwise text like this wouldn't be in it.
Where exactly does it tell us to go out and get a slave?
I can take anything out of context and make it appear evil. Including the letter your mom wrote you for your birthday.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by Jay PeateaPaul was specifically addressing slaves who were under atheist masters. He told them this to set a Christian example for other slaves and for their master. Did Jesus come to set men free from the oppression of men or from the oppresion of sins? Don't make the same mistake the Jews made. Even with 2000 years of warnings, they were looking for a warrior king rather than a King to free them from their sins and give them the gift of eternal life.
It doesn't, but it does imply that slavery is sanctioned, otherwise text like this wouldn't be in it.