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Originally posted by josephw
Ok. I always thought that this saying was somehow true, but I learned to think a little differently about it.

I think it is more accurate to say, "God helps the helpless".
Don't stop there

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
Don't stop there
"...the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless."

"Hear, O Lord, and have mercy upon me: Lord, be thou my helper."

"For he shall deliver the needy when he crieth; the poor also and him that hath no helper."

Etc. etc. etc.

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Originally posted by josephw
Ok. I always thought that this saying was somehow true, but I learned to think a little differently about it.

I think it is more accurate to say, "God helps the helpless".
if he helped them, then they wouldnt be helpless.

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
if he helped them, then they wouldnt be helpless.
Exactly! But if they don't ask...!

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Originally posted by josephw
Exactly! But if they don't ask...!
This sort of perverse theology is dangerous and destructive.

It implies that everyone who is helpless hasn't asked. But because of the nature of humankind,
the more helpless you are, the more likely you are to have had asked and vice versa.

So, either we have a meaningless standard of measuring helplessness (I haven't asked and I'm
not helpless as far as I know, and I know several people who ask all the time with complete sincerity
and fervor and remain helpless), or God doesn't help people who help themselves.

Nemesio

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Originally posted by Nemesio
This sort of perverse theology is dangerous and destructive.

It implies that everyone who is helpless hasn't asked. But because of the nature of humankind,
the more helpless you are, the more likely you are to have had asked and vice versa.

So, either we have a meaningless standard of measuring helplessness (I haven't asked and I'm
not helpless as ...[text shortened]...
and fervor and remain helpless), or God doesn't help people who help themselves.

Nemesio
i dont believe god does help; if he did help, he wouldve killed hitler