Originally posted by JS357
I don't think about it in terms of objects. I believe we come to have moral duties by entering into associations with other moral agents and moral victims (entities that can suffer). Interconnections are made based on agreements to act according to agreed rules. According to the link I cited yesterday, we start with a reward/punishment moral theory (which is hardly a moral theory) and eventually (may) reach a social contract level, then some abstract this to universal ethical principles. Some variation on the "negative golden rule" encapsulates this.
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I am interested to know if you believe in a final and ultimate balancing of the moral scales in a real sense. I see what you say about social contracts. But this is very subjective and preferential.
I am wondering not about temporary expediency but ultimate moral justice in an absolute finality.
Jesus Christ spoke of
"the day of judgment" and
"the last day" as an ultimate setting of the crooked straight.
I see what you mean it terms of temporary contracts which might work for us for awhile. But in an ultimate sense your explanation seems to amount to an arbitrary expediency based on something like majority opinion.
Jesus spoke of a day of judgement on all things moral. The secrets of men's hearts are revealed. You know we can get away with many things before man. He taught that we can get away with
NOTHING to this Universal Corrector ( Who also is a Universal Savior from our in-equalities, our
iniquities ).
"And I say to you that every idle word which men shall speak, they will render an account concerning in the day of judgment. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned." (Matt. 12:36,37)
And again:
" For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wills. For neither does the Father judge anyone, but H has given all judgment to the Son, in order that all may honor the Son even as they honor the Father.
He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:21-23)
This is a final setting of the scales of morality in balance in a universal sense by the Son of God. Keep in mind the He is also the
Savior from Divine condemnation.
The interplay of the human conscience of every created man and woman will come into play in this matter of final moral judgment.
" ( ... the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness with it and their reasonings, one with the other, accusing or even excusing them )
In the day when God judges the secrets of men according to my gospel through Jesus Christ." (Romans 2:15b - 16)
And the Bible says that the judgment of God
"IS ACCORDING TO TRUTH", not someone's or someones' subjective fleeting opinions or a expedient social contract.
"For we know that the judgment of God IS ACCORDING TO TRUTH upon those who practice such things." (Romans 2:2)
Plurality is good. Multiculturalism is good and understandable.
But we must beware of an overreaching relativism which renders Justice as illusory on a ultimate scale.
There is
"TRUTH" and a final judgment according to truth.
How about we suspect that the Creator of the billions of details, known and unknown yet, about the workings of the universe has not only the ultimate power but the ultimate Authority to balance the moral scales according to
truth ?