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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-25/what-if-jesus-had-been-born-2000-years-later-american-police-state


    What If Jesus Had Been Born 2,000 Years Later In The American Police State?


    Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,




    “Two thousand years later … the memory of the revolutionary zealot who walked across Galilee gathering an army of disciples with the goal of establishing the Kingdom of God on earth, the magnetic preacher who defied the authority of the Temple priesthood in Jerusalem, the radical Jewish nationalist who challenged the Roman occupation and lost, has been almost completely lost to history.” ? Reza Aslan, religious scholar

    The Christmas narrative of a baby born in a manger is a familiar one.

    The Roman Empire, a police state in its own right, had ordered that a census be conducted. Joseph and his pregnant wife Mary traveled to the little town of Bethlehem so that they could be counted. There being no room for the couple at any of the inns, they stayed in a stable, where Mary gave birth to a baby boy. That boy, Jesus, would grow up to undermine the political and religious establishment of his day and was eventually crucified as a warning to others not to challenge the powers-that-be.

    But what if Jesus, the revered preacher, teacher, radical and prophet, had been born 2,000 years later? How would Jesus’ life have been different had he be born and raised in the American police state?

    Consider the following if you will.

    Had Jesus been born in the year 2015…

    Rather than traveling to Bethlehem for a census, Jesus’ parents would have been mailed a 28-page American Community Survey, a mandatory government questionnaire documenting their habits, household inhabitants, work schedule, and even how many toilets were in their home, etc. The penalty for not responding to this invasive survey would have resulted in a fine of $5,000.

    Instead of being born in a manger, Jesus might have been born at home. Rather than wise men and shepherds bringing gifts, however, the baby’s parents might have been forced to ward off visits from state social workers intent on prosecuting them for the home birth. One couple in Washington had all three of their children removed after social services objected to the two youngest being birthed in an unassisted home delivery.

    Had Jesus been born in a hospital, his blood and DNA would have been taken and entered into a government biobank without his parents’ knowledge or consent. While most states require newborn screening, a growing number are indefinitely holding onto that genetic material long-term for research, analysis and purposes yet to be disclosed.

    Then again, had his parents been undocumented immigrants, they and the newborn baby might have been shuffled to a profit-driven, private detention center for illegals. There’s quite a lot of money to be made from imprisoning immigrants, especially when taxpayers are footing the bill.

    Once in school, Jesus would have been drilled in lessons of compliance and obedience to government authorities, all the while learning little about his own rights. And if he dared to challenge school officials, he might have found himself suspended under a school zero tolerance policy that punishes minor infractions (such as doodling or talking in class) as harshly as more serious offenses (such as bringing a weapon to class).

    According to scripture, Jesus, at the age of twelve, wandered the temple courts in Jerusalem alone and unsupervised. Today, had Jesus disappeared for a few hours let alone days, his parents would have been handcuffed, arrested and jailed for parental negligence. Parents across the country have been arrested for far less “offenses” such as allowing their children to walk to the park unaccompanied and play in their front yard alone.

    Rather than disappearing from the history books from his early teenaged years to adulthood, Jesus’ movements and personal data—including his biometrics—would have been documented, tracked, monitored and filed by governmental agencies and corporations such as Google and Microsoft. Incredibly, 95 percent of school districts share their student records with outside companies contracted to manage the data.

    If Jesus were to ever make contact with the likes of John the Baptist, he would have been flagged for surveillance because of his association with a prominent activist, peaceful or otherwise. Since 9/11, the FBI has actively carried out surveillance and intelligence-gathering operations on a broad range of activist groups, from animal rights groups to poverty relief and anti-war organizations.

    Rather than being permitted to live as an itinerant preacher, Jesus might have found himself threatened with arrest for daring to live off the grid or sleeping outside. In fact, the number of cities that have resorted to criminalizing homelessness by enacting bans on camping, sleeping in vehicles, loitering and begging in public has doubled in recent years.

    Had his travels taken him from community to community, Jesus might have been reported to government officials as “suspicious” under the Department of Homeland Security’s “See Something, Say Something” programs. Many states, including New York, are providing individuals with phone apps that allow them to take photos of suspicious activity and report them to their state Intelligence Center, where they are reviewed and forwarded to law-enforcement agencies.

    Perceived as a dissident and a potential threat to the government’s power, Jesus might have had government spies planted among his followers in order to monitor his activities, report on his movements, and entrap him into breaking the law.

    Jesus’ anti-government views would certainly have resulted in him being labeled a domestic extremist. Law enforcement agencies are being trained to recognize signs of anti-government extremism during interactions with potential extremists who share a “belief in the approaching collapse of government and the economy.”

    Assuming Jesus used the internet to spread his radical message of peace and love, he might have found his blog posts infiltrated by government spies attempting to undermine his integrity, discredit him or plant incriminating information online about him. At the very least, he would have had his website hacked and his email monitored.

    Had Jesus attempted to feed large crowds of people, he would have been threatened with arrest for violating various ordinances prohibiting the distribution of food without a permit. Florida officials arrested a 90-year-old man for feeding the homeless on a public beach.

    Had Jesus spoken publicly about his 40 days in the desert and his conversations with the devil, he might have been labeled mentally ill and detained in a psych ward against his will for a mandatory involuntary psychiatric hold with no access to family or friends. One Virginia man was arrested, strip searched, handcuffed to a table, diagnosed as having “mental health issues,” and locked up for five days in a mental health facility against his will apparently because of his slurred speech and unsteady gait.

    Without a doubt, had Jesus attempted to overturn tables in a Jewish temple and raged against the materialism of religious institutions, he would have been charged with a hate crime. Currently, 45 states and the federal government have hate crime laws on the books.

    Rather than having armed guards capture Jesus in a public place, government officials would have ordered that a SWAT team carry out a raid on Jesus and his followers, complete with flash-bang grenades and military equipment. There are upwards of 80,000 such SWAT team raids carried out every year, many on unsuspecting Americans who have no defense against such government invaders, even when such raids are done in error.

    Instead of being detained by Roman guards, Jesus might have been made to “disappear” into a secret government detention center where he would have been interrogated, tortured and subjected to all manner of abuses. Chicago police “disappeared” more than 7,000 people into a secret, off-the-books interrogation warehouse at Homan Square.

    Charged with treason and labeled a domestic terrorist, Jesus might have been sentenced to a life-term in a private prison where he would have been forced to provide slave labor for corporations or put to death by way of the electric chair or a lethal mixture of drugs.

    Either way, as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, whether Jesus had been born in our modern age or his own, he still would have died at the hands of a po...
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    29 Dec '15 07:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    What If Jesus Had Been Born 2,000 Years Later In The American Police State?
    Of course things would have gone much worse for him if he looked Arabic and said he was Muslim.
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    29 Dec '15 07:301 edit
    What-ifs like this are useless to contemplate. Jesus was the Son of God. God picked his own time and place to serve his purpose. The time and place of Jesus' birth was perfect. I can only assume you, like the man who wrote this article, bring this up to criticize this current 'time and place'.
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    29 Dec '15 07:36
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    What-ifs like this are useless to contemplate.
    Only if you do not wish to discuss what is being looked at.
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    29 Dec '15 07:54
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Only if you do not wish to discuss what is being looked at.
    Do you really think the Son of God would be sent to grow up in a world where inner-city youth kill each other for a pair of sneakers?
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    29 Dec '15 10:58
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Do you really think the Son of God would be sent to grow up in a world where inner-city youth kill each other for a pair of sneakers?
    He was sent to grow up in a world of religious bigotry, hatred and cultural ignorance, one of corporate barbaric cruelty and deep rooted sexism and endemic racism. I hardly think murdering for theft would have even hit his radar 2000 years ago.
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    29 Dec '15 11:23
    Originally posted by divegeester
    He was sent to grow up in a world of religious bigotry, hatred and cultural ignorance, one of corporate barbaric cruelty and deep rooted sexism and endemic racism. I hardly think murdering for theft would have even hit his radar 2000 years ago.
    Today? Nobody would crucify Him. Instead He would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
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    29 Dec '15 11:45
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Today? Nobody would crucify Him. Instead He would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
    I don't think so. We are living now in a very sceptical age, a scepticism compounded by amazing advancements in technology. I think Jesus would have a tough time being accepted as genuine among the general masses, his miracles explained away as replicable trickery or CGI. (Even if he really was the son of God). As a species, we have become coldly accustomed to seeing miraculous things, every day miracles like television and mobile phones that don't require the hand of God. - It would therefore come down to his charismatic words to reach humanity, a humanity no longer able to hear and trust a single voice in the quagmire of multi media communication.
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    29 Dec '15 12:22
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Do you really think the Son of God would be sent to grow up in a world where inner-city youth kill each other for a pair of sneakers?
    I have no idea what sort of society the Son of God would be sent into. That however is not what is being discussed. It is clear however that you do not want to discuss what is being discussed. So why not just keep quiet? Or do you not want anyone else to discuss it either?
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    He was sent to grow up in a world of religious bigotry, hatred and cultural ignorance, one of corporate barbaric cruelty and deep rooted sexism and endemic racism. I hardly think murdering for theft would have even hit his radar 2000 years ago.
    Men don't change, just their calendars do.

    I almost forgot, we have cell phones now.

    Yippee!!! 😵
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Today? Nobody would crucify Him. Instead He would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
    How so? What "tyrant" would he have militarily disposed in order to win the award like Obama?

    How many terrorists would he have taken out with drones?

    It's like Socrates once said, if there was any righteous man born without blemish, he would be murdered. Ironically Socrates himself met the same fate.
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    29 Dec '15 16:00
    Originally posted by whodey
    Men don't change, just their calendars do.

    I almost forgot, we have cell phones now.

    Yippee!!! 😵
    So there would in fact be no difference if Jebus had been beamed to Starship Earth this year instead of 2000 years ago?
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    29 Dec '15 16:35
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    So there would in fact be no difference if Jebus had been beamed to Starship Earth this year instead of 2000 years ago?
    I'm sure he just would have tweeted everyone instead of going out to meet them. 😛
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    29 Dec '15 17:18
    So who would Jesus whip today?

    No doubt, he would be arrested for assault.
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Today? Nobody would crucify Him. Instead He would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
    He would also be a gun owner. 😏
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