-Removed-Now is the accepted time to repent; when life is over, it's over. No one is promised
tomorrow, and you find all of this unbelievable? We make choices we will face the
consequences for them here plus in the life to come. The choice to commit a crime
with the sentence of the death penalty connected to it and not to turn to God
when you can both is limited here and very real.
@kellyjay saiddivegeester might make you feel uncomfortable because your rhetorical tools and the concepts you have to offer are limited, but don't kid yourself, KellyJay, you are a two dimensional online persona who fluctuates between being earnest on one hand and conversing blatantly in bad faith on the other. You are a lesser man than he is, based on how you conduct yourself here: in real life/not here? No comment.
Your thoughts, your feelings, everything you bring to the table in most discussions
rise no higher than that.
@fmf saidHe doesn't make me uncomfortable; he has nothing to base his feelings on outside
divegeester might make you feel uncomfortable because your rhetorical tools and the concepts you have to offer are limited, but don't kid yourself, KellyJay, you are a two dimensional online persona who fluctuates between being earnest on one hand and conversing blatantly in bad faith on the other. You are a lesser man than he is, based on how you conduct yourself here: in real life/not here? No comment.
of his feelings. If all you can do is say, I think that without giving cause, there is
nothing but you to validate the things you say. If there is a cause, the cause needs to
be examined; without one, it is just you. You can rightfully say we all have our
beliefs and our opinions, but that is just the starting point; why we have our beliefs
and opinions are the things that need to be examined. The whole world could
do what dive does; I don't like that, and that is that, but unless there is a reason to
draw a line in the sand somewhere that is valid, who cares what someone else
thinks about anything?
Your opinion of me is as meaningless to me as dive is!
@kellyjay saidI have examined your faith-based subjective assertions/beliefs of yours: "The entire world is condemned already, which is why salvation is a must to be redeemed and restored to God. I don't send anyone to Hell, and God does. He and He alone has that power, and He uses it with cause." ...and I do not share them. I have examined your faith-based subjective assertion/belief that you will have everlasting life because you believe in Jesus. ...and I do not share it.
You can rightfully say we all have our
beliefs and our opinions, but that is just the starting point; why we have our beliefs
and opinions are the things that need to be examined.
@fmf saidI think whether (and how quickly) someone gets executed has more to do with money (quality of legal representation) and less to do with color.
The systematic racism underpinning the death penalty in your country makes a mockery of your ideological sense of "righteousness". You are talking about the death penalty, right? And you are arguing that it is part of "righteousness", right?
@savedbygrace saidWhat is your motivation for trying to dilute or rationalize the fact that Black people are far more likely than White people to be sentenced to death for committing similar crimes?
I think whether (and how quickly) someone gets executed has more to do with money (quality of legal representation) and less to do with color.
And besides, in the context of this conversation, how does the fact that poorer people are far more likely than richer people to be sentenced to death for committing similar crimes bolster KellyJay's belief that capital punishment is an example of God-willed "righteousness"?
@fmf saidNo motivation. Just stating my opinion.
What is your motivation for trying to dilute or rationalize the fact that Black people are far more likely than White people to be sentenced to death for committing similar crimes?
And besides, in the context of this conversation, how does the fact that poorer people are far more likely than richer people to be sentenced to death for committing similar crimes bolster KellyJay's belief that capital punishment is an example of God-willed "righteousness"?
Do you have a study or article that backs up your opinion? I think the validity of my opinion is self-evident.
@savedbygrace saidNo. I'm just typing a few posts here early on a Sunday morning before I get down to a day's work. I'm not going to look anything up for you, make any additional effort to back up the opinion I have offered, or do anything in addition to simply typing a few posts.
Do you have a study or article that backs up your opinion?
@fmf saidSo your opinion could very well be wrong.
No. I'm just typing a few posts here early on a Sunday morning before I get down to a day's work. I'm not going to look anything up for you, make any additional effort to back up the opinion I have offered, or do anything in addition to simply typing a few posts.
@fmf saidThis, like many other things that do not depend on us accepting or rejecting them,
I have examined your faith-based subjective assertions/beliefs of yours: "The entire world is condemned already, which is why salvation is a must to be redeemed and restored to God. I don't send anyone to Hell, and God does. He and He alone has that power, and He uses it with cause." ...and I do not share them. I have examined your faith-based subjective assertion/belief that you will have everlasting life because you believe in Jesus. ...and I do not share it.
reality is exactly what it is, regardless of our opinions about it.