@philokalia saidYou've asked me this lightweight pad-out-the-conversation stuff at least half a dozen times before. This is a debate and discussion forum. I am interested in the moral incoherence of the torturer god ideology and in the effects of superstition on the intellect and interpersonal skills of religionists that subscribe to it.
And why do you seemingly exclusively bother him about it?
@kellyjay saidThe only message your ideology has for me, an atheist, is that you believe I am going to suffer enormous never-ending supernatural violence ~ and that I deserve it ~ because I don't believe the same things as you. That torture "threat" is the heart of inexplicable darkness at the very centre of your belief system.
Sins, that which we do against the truth. You keep wanting to make this about God's failure instead of acknowledging our guilt. You cannot be accused of wrong willfully against something you didn't know, but not being aware doesn't excuse you of breaking the law, and you can be charged with disobedience against the truth you were aware of when you do that. Sins before a Just ...[text shortened]... y ideology as I read and understand the scriptures, not this twisting of things you just spewed out.
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@philokalia saidNo. There's no derailment. One cannot talk about "humanity" with a Christian without discussing the fate of that part of "humanity" which is not Christian.
Now we are at the derailment.
@philokalia saidThis is just self-important, off-topic, half-engaged, uncomprehending wingeing.
... Another thread about "hell," eh?
Back on page 7 it seemed we were still talking about the nature of what being a human is.
Now we are at the derailment.
If one were to keep track of the number of threads taht FMF/Dive turn derail in the direction of hell, you honestly would have to be very meticulous and on point.
It's several a week.
I boldly suggest Christianity does just that. It divides humans up into those worthy of salvation and those destined for damnation.
I put it to you sir that religion gets in the way of what it truly means to be human and denigrates our commonality.
Who was more responsible for the cessation of Gladiator Games in Rome - spectacles of bloodshed?
Athiests or Christians ?
Who is more responsible for the cessation of the Slave Trade in Europe and the New World?
Atheists or Christians ?
Who is more responsible for the establishment of hospitals recent centuries?
Atheists or Christians ?
The major Ivy League colleges in America were mostly founded by -
Atheists or Christians ?
Establishment of modern scientific progressed by men like Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler, Faraday, Kelvin, Boyle -
Were they more informed by Atheistic philosophy or Christian theism ?
"Advocating human rights, democracy, political freedoms, concern for the poor: These themes are rooted in the biblical idea that all humans are made in God's image, that they have dignity and worth, and that they are equal before law."
- Paul Copan
@secondson saidI was in a conversation with you. Are you trying to hide your cop-out behind a condescending word?
Yapping - to talk at length in an irritating manner.
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-Removed-There was one time I went back 15 pages of my posting archive and found a single thumbs-down on every single post. One thumbs-down. Every single post, every thread, every forum. Over 200 posts. Then one had been missed [somehow] on page 16 and then it continued as before page after page, one thumbs down per post, hundreds and hundreds of posts in a row. Bizarre. Some sort of dysfunction in play. But funny nevertheless.