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This question has erupted in my mind due to a couple of other threads. I cannot answer it for myself, so tell me, what does it mean to have a spiritual life or to describe oneself as spiritual? What is spirituality?
Originally posted by DeepThought"Spirituality" is a word that we should not allow to be kidnapped by religionists.
This question has erupted in my mind due to a couple of other threads. I cannot answer it for myself, so tell me, what does it mean to have a spiritual life or to describe oneself as spiritual? What is spirituality?
Originally posted by DeepThoughtPaul has a nice discussion on it in Romans 8.
This question has erupted in my mind due to a couple of other threads. I cannot answer it for myself, so tell me, what does it mean to have a spiritual life or to describe oneself as spiritual? What is spirituality?
Originally posted by Rajk999I believe that when one gets away from the fleshly, carnal, mechanical side of our existence, and gets into the abstract side where we find music, literature, religion and philosophy, art ~ as well as things like ideology and morality and ethics ~ along with non-tangible capacities like compassion, aspiration, curiosity, where our each and every human spirit is given its full rein, where our ideas can affect each other's behaviour and perceptions, then we are in the realm of "spirituality".
Paul has a nice discussion on it in Romans 8.
I gather Paul is saying that worldly, fleshly, carnal are contrary to spiritual which are in essence things not of this world and of God.
Originally posted by FMFNicely put.
I believe that when one gets away from the fleshly, carnal, mechanical side of our existence, and gets into the abstract side where we find music, literature, religion and philosophy, art ~ as well as things like ideology and morality and ethics ~ along with non-tangible capacities like compassion, aspiration, curiosity, where our each and every human spirit is ...[text shortened]... hom is largely determined by culture ~ itself a product of the spirituality of the human spirit.
Originally posted by FMFI think it is a mistake to assume that the flesh and the spirit are antagonists. They are each necessary parts of a balanced whole.
I believe that when one gets away from the fleshly, carnal, mechanical side of our existence, and gets into the abstract side where we find music, literature, religion and philosophy, art ~ as well as things like ideology and morality and ethics ~ along with non-tangible capacities like compassion, aspiration, curiosity, where our each and every human spirit is ...[text shortened]... hom is largely determined by culture ~ itself a product of the spirituality of the human spirit.
Originally posted by rwingettI agree. And if I implied that they were not a combination or package that conveys us as we navigate the human condition, then it was not my intention.
I think it is a mistake to assume that the flesh and the spirit are antagonists. They are each necessary parts of a balanced whole.
Originally posted by FMFsomething all humans possess (the human spirit - the only kind of spirit that every human being can agree exists)
"Spirituality" is a word that we should not allow to be kidnapped by religionists.
And I also don't think atheists should allow theists to apply it only to themselves on account of the fact that they've used their spiritual nature and capacity for abstraction - something all humans possess (the human spirit - the only kind of spirit that every human being ca ...[text shortened]... with things like immortality and supernatural beings who have supposedly communicated with them.
Originally posted by checkbaiterI am aware of your ideology. But you have to delve into Hebrew mythology to make your religionist case - which is your prerogative, of course. I suspect that DeepThought might be more interested in a discussion on spirituality in a broader, maybe more universal sense, rather than technocratic screeds pertaining to one of the major retail religions and its off-the-shelf curiosity-ending packages of explanations and solutions. π
[b]something all humans possess (the human spirit - the only kind of spirit that every human being can agree exists)
I don't agree with this. Humans are born body and soul life. They have no spirit.[/b]
Originally posted by FMFcheckbaiter, having said all that, yes, I understand that you have a definition of "spirit" which only applies to people who share your religious beliefs and which you got from the same literature as they did. Yes, I understand this phenomenon.
I am aware of your ideology. But you have to delve into Hebrew mythology to make your religionist case - which is your prerogative, of course. I suspect that DeepThought might be more interested in a discussion on spirituality in a broader, maybe more universal sense, rather than technocratic screeds pertaining to one of the major retail religions and its off-the-shelf curiosity-ending packages of explanations and solutions. π
Originally posted by FMFYou saved me posting.
I believe that when one gets away from the fleshly, carnal, mechanical side of our existence, and gets into the abstract side where we find music, literature, religion and philosophy, art ~ as well as things like ideology and morality and ethics ~ along with non-tangible capacities like compassion, aspiration, curiosity, where our each and every human spirit is ...[text shortened]... hom is largely determined by culture ~ itself a product of the spirituality of the human spirit.
Originally posted by checkbaiterFMF is clearly talking about the "Human Spirit"
[b]something all humans possess (the human spirit - the only kind of spirit that every human being can agree exists)
I don't agree with this. Humans are born body and soul life. They have no spirit.[/b]