@vivify saidIt wasn't quite as straightforward as "I forgive you" because it was a whole lot of "I've now come to understand what really happened" as well.
Can anyone, if they don't mind, share a time they told someone "I forgive you", for a particularly egregious act done toward them?
I had a falling out with a friend ~ who was my employer and visa sponsor at the time ~ that affected me in terms of which country I subsequently lived in and how much of my savings had been essentially squandered with little to show for it. Having said that, the falling out was over employment [and assurances that had been overtaken by adverse events] and not money.
Because we were very intimate friends stretching back 20 years it was steeped in bitterness; but, also, because we were very intimate friends, and despite what had happened, a personal crisis arose in his life that had him reaching out to me because that was the kind of role I'd had for those 20 years.
It was at that moment I realized that postponed forgiveness [and perhaps lingering self-pity] were the only barriers to reconciliation, especially as the bitterness had ebbed away with the passage of a year or two incommunicado.
Knowing I was in town, he tracked me down in a cafe drinking a coffee, sat down, and told me what his crisis was. And forgiving each other seemed almost trivial by comparison. It was done with a wordless nod.
And the fact that we were intimate friends, irrevocably so, came to the fore.
@vivify saidI live among blacks and many of them hate East Indians. Several times they have cursed me, called me derogatory names, .. 'stinking fu#$%@g coolie'. Threatened to kill me. But I thank God that I have the strength to live and carry on as if they dont exist. I forgive them. Its no big deal.
A major theme of religion is the ability to forgive wrongs committed against us.
Can anyone, if they don't mind, share a time they told someone "I forgive you", for a particularly egregious act done toward them?
@rajk999 saidLet's assume what you claim happened to you is true.
I live among blacks and many of them hate East Indians. Several times they have cursed me, called me derogatory names, .. 'stinking fu#$%@g coolie'. Threatened to kill me. But I thank God that I have the strength to live and carry on as if they dont exist. I forgive them. Its no big deal.
Based on your constant attacks toward blacks, have you really forgiven them? You seem to delight denigrating them on this forum, which has been pointed out to you many times.
BTW...where do you live that blacks are using insults from the 1970's?
@vivify saidYou really are clueless to goings-on in other parts of the world. The rest of your post is BS
Let's assume what you claim happened to you is true.
Based on your constant attacks toward blacks, have you really forgiven them? You seem to delight denigrating them on this forum, which has been pointed out to you many times.
BTW...where do you live that blacks are using insults from the 1970's?
@rajk999 saidAre they antagonistic and hostile to you based solely on your being an East Indian?
I live among blacks and many of them hate East Indians. Several times they have cursed me, called me derogatory names, .. 'stinking fu#$%@g coolie'. Threatened to kill me. But I thank God that I have the strength to live and carry on as if they dont exist. I forgive them. Its no big deal.
@pb1022 saidYes, that and the fact that materially Im better off than most of them. And they say it ... .. hey nothing personal, we just dont like you Indian people .. all you like is to make money ... . lol ... thats their grouse. Any race that is materially better off they dislike them. I guess thats all other races.
Are they antagonistic and hostile to you based solely on your being an East Indian?
@rajk999 saidThat crack at the end...you clearly haven't "forgiven" them, assuming your claims are true. That remark, in addition to your many other instances of racism toward blacks on this forum, shows you clearly haven't.
Any race that is materially better off they dislike them. I guess thats all other races.
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@vivify saidWell if I hear Jesus say that then I will get worried. You ... well, sorry, your opinion is is like the wind blowing. And by the way, what I said is the absolute truth and like many truths there are people who rather not hear it and lie to themselves.
That crack at the end...you clearly haven't "forgiven" them, assuming your claims are true. That remark, in addition to your many other instances of racism toward blacks on this forum, shows you clearly haven't.
Forgiveness does not mean Im stupid.
@vivify saidThere are many whose forgiveness is utterly incredible, and when I think about them, I'm going to be quiet. We used to belong to a small Vinyard Church when we lived in California; we supported a work in Rwanda. Off and on, some of us would go there and help out; one year, we brought a few of them to come to the states. We were able to fellowship with them show them around; I got them to speak at my job and share their testimony.
A major theme of religion is the ability to forgive wrongs committed against us.
Can anyone, if they don't mind, share a time they told someone "I forgive you", for a particularly egregious act done toward them?
They lived through the genocide that took place, one of the men I met, his family was murdered, his wife and kids. After all of that, they caught those who did it and were imprisoned. He shared how the Lord told him he had to forgive them; he didn't want to, then decided he must. So he went to the prison, he asked to see those guys, they were brought out to see him. They knew who he was and what they had done to his family, so when they got out to see him, they said, 'you are going to condemn us."
He said, "No, he was there to ask for their forgiveness because in his heart he had murdered them over and over, killed their family members over and over." It got emotional after that; that moved even the guards. He began bringing them items so they could live, and one of them, when he got out, traveled with him in a ministry towards reconciliation. I used to have link to the group they belonged to, but it was long ago.