What!? Not Talk About the Trinity ?

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Same... As you, small independent group and have been known to visit local churches. ...What I mean is using words like deity is another way of saying Jesus is God.

You two, checkbaiter and divegeester, are a curious duo. Both claim to be against the Trinity as a teaching. One of you seems to be on one side of the extreme. The other one of you seems to have been pushed to the opposite extreme.

Checkbaiter does not want to confess Jesus as God incarnate.

Divegeester, you seem to take as some kind of more orthodox that you never think of "Us" or "We" spoken of the Son and Father, as being a plural pronoun.

But the words "Us" and "We" are what they are. And if you hold the Scripture as breathed out by God, then you should believe that this is what the Holy Spirit had written in the Bible.

Protesting over this obvious indication of more than one ________ in the Godhead in the name of fighting against the Trinity seems odd.

Both of these approaches subtract something from the total revelation of the Bible.

I will not deny that Jesus Christ the Man is God incarnate.
I will not try to insist that the Father and the Son are not represented by the pronouns "Us" and "We" in the revelation of the One God.

Divegeester, Scripture says that we Christians have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous.

" My little children, these things I write to you that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous;

And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for those of the whole world." ( John 2:1,2)

Are you going to suppress that we have an Advocate WITH the Father, Jesus Christ, in the name of fighting against the teaching of the Trinity ?

Aren't you concerned that your experience of God may be hurt because you tend to underplay that we have an Advocate with the Father in the mystery of God's Godhead ?

The Bible has revealed that there is one God and not more than one. But the Bible also has the divine Us and the divine We.

Don't you believe that this Jesus Christ Who is God is the Advocate WITH the Father, today, now? Can't you see how They two simultaneously exist though God is one God ?

Originally posted by sonship
..Aren't you concerned that your experience of God may be hurt because you tend to underplay that we have an Advocate with the Father in the mystery of God's Godhead ? ..

The Christian experience of God is only hurt by following a doctrine which encourages them to continue with sin and worldliness, much like the doctrine you preach.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The Christian experience of God is only hurt by following a doctrine which encourages them to continue with sin and worldliness, much like the doctrine you preach.

What of the godless one you preach?

Originally posted by KellyJay
What of the godless one you preach?

Sin is what separates man from God. Did I preach that it is OK for man to sin?

Originally posted by Rajk999
Sin is what separates man from God. Did I preach that it is OK for man to sin?

You did indicate previously that it is ok for man to sin, if it is not done continuously.

Originally posted by sonship
You two, checkbaiter and divegeester, are a curious duo. Both claim to be against the Trinity as a teaching. One of you seems to be on one side of the extreme. The other one of you seems to have been pushed to the opposite extreme.

Checkbaiter does not want to confess Jesus as God incarnate.

Divegeester, you seem to take as some kind of more orthodo ...[text shortened]... he Father, today, now? Can't you see how They two simultaneously exist though God is one God ?

So who is correct. You, Dive or Checkbaiter??

And the 2 that are wrong....heaven or hell??

Originally posted by Rajk999
Sin is what separates man from God. Did I preach that it is OK for man to sin?

I said nothing about sin, I said godless.

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I will keep asking who is the correct Jesus until I see an answer that makes sense.

A person should not be able to just go 'shopping' for A Jesus and merely pluck any version that's on the shelf.

Who is He??

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Thanks. Regardless of my past posting blunders, I seriously take issue with the fact that the identity of Jesus is a real mess among the population. This forum is but a small example.